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Old 03-09-2008, 07:54 AM
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Florida and Michigan have very different circumstances and should be looked at separately.

Florida: The REPUBLICAN state congress changed the date for the primary and the Dems had no choice. Therefore, the Dems there should not be punished. All of the candidates were on the ballot. Therefore, their delegates should be seated as is.

Michigan: A major cluster you know what. The Michigan Democratic Party (MDP from here on out) was extremely childish with it's "We're tired of Iowa and NH getting all the say so we're going to move ours earlier than them!" crap. Here we are, in March, and nothing is decided among the Dems yet so clearly Iowa and NH didn't get all the say. Because the DNC said that it was an "illegal" primary, Edwards and Obama dropped out off of the ballot and we had this stupid "Uncommitted" category. You cannot count the votes from this election because 1) Many people didn't vote at all since their candidate wasn't on the ballot and 2) You can't count the Uncommitted votes because it's impossible to know who they wanted to vote for. You absolutely cannot assume they all go to Obama because some were clearly intended for Edwards and there is no way to know how many. And then there is 3) Some may have voted for Hillary just because she was the only one with name recognition on the ballot (Gravel was also on the ballot). That doesn't mean they didn't really want Obama. For those reasons, Michigan should have a firehouse caucus at this point, paid for by the MDP because they are the ones who screwed up. It's still not right, because if we had a choice back on Super Tuesday, Edwards was still an option and he's not now.
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