YiLFS private?

[emb021]

As our Cardinal Principles, Leadership, Friendship, Service is NOT secret (heck we use it on much of our promo materials), to claim that LFS or YiLFS is somehow 'secret' is silly.

Frankly, you can count on 1 hand the number of things in APO that are really secret:

* our real name
* our handclasp
* meaning behind badge
* meaning behind coat of arms
* our rituals

[naraht]

Originally Posted by emb021

As our Cardinal Principles, Leadership, Friendship, Service is NOT secret (heck we use it on much of our promo materials), to claim that LFS or YiLFS is somehow 'secret' is silly.

Frankly, you can count on 1 hand the number of things in APO that are really secret:

* our real name
* our handclasp
* meaning behind badge
* meaning behind coat of arms
* our rituals

Do you count the sign of the Fraternity?

[Explicit]

Originally Posted by naraht

Do you count the sign of the Fraternity?

I wouldn't count the sign itself, but I would count the meaning behind it.

[naraht]

Originally Posted by Explicit

I wouldn't count the sign itself, but I would count the meaning behind it.

Sounds right.

[emb021]

Originally Posted by naraht

Do you count the sign of the Fraternity?

Considering that so many people show the sign in pictures (tho as a former Scout, they are doing it wrong...), I would say no, but as another pointed out, the meaning of it is secret.

[Explicit]

Originally Posted by emb021

Considering that so many people show the sign in pictures (tho as a former Scout, they are doing it wrong...), I would say no, but as another pointed out, the meaning of it is secret.

What part about it are they doing wrong? I've noticed that some do the sign with their palm facing towards themselves.

[emb021]

Originally Posted by Explicit

What part about it are they doing wrong? I've noticed that some do the sign with their palm facing towards themselves.

Scouts are taught to give the Scout Sign this way:

Right arm straight out, elbow bent at a 90% angle with the hand upright, scout sign given with the palm facing.

Stuff that isn't right is things like splaying the fingers, dropping the arm and the like. All the other stuff I see with some Brothers making the sign in various (to me as a scout) strange ways just makes me roll my eyes.

The arm should be held this way:

Hand
Hand
Hand
arm
arm
arm
arm
elbow arm arm arm arm Body

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by emb021

Scouts are taught to give the Scout Sign this way:

Right arm straight out, elbow bent at a 90% angle with the hand upright, scout sign given with the palm facing . . . .

This is me being hyper-technical. Boy Scouts make the Scout Sign the way you described, with the arm at a right angle. Cub Scouts make the [Cub] Scout Sign with arm raised straight up.

I need a life.

[emb021]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

This is me being hyper-technical. Boy Scouts make the Scout Sign the way you described, with the arm at a right angle. Cub Scouts make the Cub Scout Sign with arm raised straight up.

Apparently we used to do the arm raised straight up too in our ritual. I'd rather see it done that way, then when people have their arm lower, with the elbow nearer their body.

This is also done with the Scout Sign at meetings to quite people down. I've seen it also done at Fraternity events.

Venturers, btw, do the Venturing sign with the arm at a right angle.