What makes Greek life "hot" in the south?

[Elephant Walk]

For those who aren't in old-line families who happen to come upon an excellent fraternity, it could certainly create the connections to become an old-line family. In southern states that are small (Arkansas, Alabama, Mississippi, and to a lesser extent Georgia and Louisiana) you're known by your family known. They don't need to ask how much your dad makes because they already know it.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by srmom

Uggh..

Snobby McSnobberson, you are in college right? You BASICALLY have never earned your own money and are living off of your parents. Quit with the I'm so classy and rich, because a) classy people do not talk about how much better they are than others, and b) really rich people do not talk about how rich they are - they've been raised better than that.

This quote should be the welcome message when some GCers log on.

More than that, that poster actually boasted about the social class divide in an area. Someone has taken his Future Capitalists of America membership way too seriously and has failed to use his brain.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by 33girl

I think that the issue a lot of people have with that concept boils down to this: that if you don't have a trust fund or a family name, you're not going to get anywhere in the community.

It can't just be any type of trust fund and family name, though. "Class" and "status" have never just been about objective criteria. If it was, there wouldn't have needed to be a such thing as the black bourgeoisie. Blacks from educated and wealthy backgrounds still weren't seen as good enough by whites from the same education and background.

Just something else to think about that makes these "Southern" rants very offensive and discriminatory in outcome, if not intent.

Other than that: Using Greekdom as an additional social network is cool because that's one of its many purposes and uses. How that plays out will vary, of course.

[Elephant Walk]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

I hope you're listening to my Marxist bullshit because it's important!

Yeah, except I've never met a wealthy African-American. You forget...the South is still poor. When there is wealth it's still in the hands of the whites. Which means we still co-mingle with the same. I think it's been said on here before that if an African-American were to have the same interests come from an old-line family and meet the standards applied to everyone else, we wouldn't hesitate at giving him a bid. This is not affirmative action. We don't give out bids to less qualified to meet some sort of race quota. Goddamn. However, since we only have one or two black guys come through rush every year, it's fairly unlikely to meet a quota if we were to have one.

Don't play the race card every time you get a chance, thanks. It gets old, especially when someone as poorly informed as you does it.

[bowsandtoes]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

This quote should be the welcome message when some GCers log on.

More than that, that poster actually boasted about the social class divide in an area. Someone has taken his Future Capitalists of America membership way too seriously and has failed to use his brain.

You seem overly bitter. Is it our fault that we're better of? No, and I take pride in my family's wealth, especially because my father worked so hard to put us where we are. I plan on working just as hard to make sure we maintain or exceed our current situation. I also plan on using every connection I have (through school, fraternity, or any means) to make that happen. For that reason, the reputation and prestige of the fraternity mean a lot to me, as does the exclusivity. Does that make me an asshole? Probably in your eyes, but I really don't care, so long as my children have more opportunities than I did, just like my father made sure I was able to do many of the things he couldn't when he was my age.

[Tom Earp]

Originally Posted by srmom

Uggh..

Snobby McSnobberson, you are in college right? You BASICALLY have never earned your own money and are living off of your parents. Quit with the I'm so classy and rich, because a) classy people do not talk about how much better they are than others, and b) really rich people do not talk about how rich they are - they've been raised better than that.

Golly and you are getting the fact now?

Read some of the above posts!

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by Elephant Walk

Please read my long ass post.

Karl Marx wasn't the first or the last person to talk about capitalism. Bless your heart.

[Elephant Walk]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

Karl Marx wasn't the first or the last person to talk about capitalism. Bless your heart.

I know.

Adam Smith did it fairly eloquently. Though it is always interesting to read the early socialists like Fourier, but the flaws are inherent.

Capitalism is a little bit too high of thinking for you, so let's stay on the topic at hand.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by bowsandtoes

You seem overly bitter. Is it our fault that we're better of?

I guess I am supposedly bitter because your class standing and family background differs from mine? Certainly no one who comes from money or education would be critical of caplitalism.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by Elephant Walk

Capitalism is a little bit too high of thinking for you, so let's stay on the topic at hand.

Is it, really?

I feel like I'm petting puppies at the SPCA and you're saying Please think I'm cute and adopt meeee.

[Elephant Walk]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

Is it, really?

I feel like I'm petting puppies at the SPCA and you're saying Please think I'm cute and adopt meeee.

Excellent argument! You're truly a genius in logic!

Spend less time pondering the flaws in capitalism and more time pondering the flaws in your own families work ethic.

[srmom]

What y'all don't get is how you come off sounding. Bows and Toes, I'm sure if your dad read your last post, he'd cringe at much of what you say. You are young, and you don't understand nuance.

When you talk about wealth and exclusivity, it sounds ridiculous to me because you have earned nothing - your father has. It is great that you respect him, I'm sure he appreciates it. But, I'm also sure he would be disappointed if he knew that he had created a monster - a snob.

I was raised to appreciate where I was, what I had, and where I came from, but to never look down on others because it is a short fall with a few mis-steps. I hope I have instilled the same values in my children. I'll tell you that the first time I hear any ticky-tacky, classless garbage coming out of any of their mouths, will be the last!

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by Elephant Walk

Spend less time pondering the flaws in capitalism and more time pondering the flaws in your own families work ethic.

You truly protest too much. Spend less time making assumptions of others' standing and always needing to position yourself against others.

You might even find that you (better known as: your family) aren't as well off as you always thought you are.

[LaneSig]

Originally Posted by Elephant Walk

I think it's been said on here before that if an African-American were to have the same interests come from an old-line family and meet the standards applied to everyone else, we wouldn't hesitate at giving him a bid. This is not affirmative action. We don't give out bids to less qualified to meet some sort of race quota. However, since we only have one or two black guys come through rush every year, it's fairly unlikely to meet a quota if we were to have one.

Did you finally affiliate with the Kappa Sigma chapter at Arkansas? By your own admission, you weren't affiliated with them last year; even saying that you refused to affiliate with them. So who are you voting on for bids?


///In before the lock.////

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by srmom

What y'all don't get is how you come off sounding. Bows and Toes, I'm sure if your dad read your last post, he'd cringe at much of what you say. You are young, and you don't understand nuance.

Maybe not. Bowsandtoes got it from somewhere.

But he might even be playing a character so take all of this with a grain of salt.