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02-14-2008, 09:12 PM
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Do you guys mean Warren Jeffs?
This is a valid point. The group to which Jeffs was supposedly the "prophet", is the Fundamentalist Church of LDS...who were excommunicated by the "real" Mormon church, and it mainly had to do with the plural marriage aspect - which was generally banned by the "real" Mormons in 1890. Since 1904 (officially) those entering in to polygamous marriages are excommunicated. Large polygamist groups still exist, even in the SLC area, however they are not as numerous as people think. There are other divergences in belief, however the polygamy aspect is the largest of them.
Anyhow, enough of a sidebar...back to the topic.
Shinerbock, and EE-BO you both had very well written points. I'd say more about the original posting, you both have said what I thought to begin with anyhow.
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I think so; your description matches up with who I had in mind. I didn't look up the name; I just went with what was there from EE-BO. Maybe he meant someone else. If so, I apologize for jumping the gun.
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02-15-2008, 12:35 AM
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I heard on the radio today that Romney will be endorsing McCain
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02-15-2008, 01:06 AM
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Yep! He endorsed McCain! I think it is rather sad when someone who fought against someone on so many key issues is now kissing their butt!!!
How many times did Romney and McCain have the Consverative arugement? And now he is just endorsing him because it is good for the party. It makes me want to go Independent.
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02-15-2008, 04:37 PM
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Yep! He endorsed McCain! I think it is rather sad when someone who fought against someone on so many key issues is now kissing their butt!!!
How many times did Romney and McCain have the Consverative arugement? And now he is just endorsing him because it is good for the party. It makes me want to go Independent.
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I know what you are saying, and yet, what are his options really?
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02-18-2008, 10:52 AM
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I know what you are saying, and yet, what are his options really?
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There's an interesting take on it in the Washington Post today: Why Being the GOP's No. 2 Isn't So Bad.
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02-18-2008, 12:24 PM
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The problem with that is how Romney stacked his cards this time... he made himself a despised character the last 2 months of his campaign (by all those who didn't support him) and he'll be ill-pressed to show back up for the presidency and do well.
I think by and large, GOPers are hoping someone develops as the presidential candidate they wish they had in this race by 2012. Don't get me wrong, I'm a HUGE McCainiac and I think people who didn't already like him are slowly going to turn to him for whatever reason, but I think on the GOP side, Americans are going to be looking for someone else. Not Romney who they knew they couldn't sell to a national audience anyway.
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02-18-2008, 12:46 PM
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The problem with that is how Romney stacked his cards this time... he made himself a despised character the last 2 months of his campaign (by all those who didn't support him) and he'll be ill-pressed to show back up for the presidency and do well.
I think by and large, GOPers are hoping someone develops as the presidential candidate they wish they had in this race by 2012. Don't get me wrong, I'm a HUGE McCainiac and I think people who didn't already like him are slowly going to turn to him for whatever reason, but I think on the GOP side, Americans are going to be looking for someone else. Not Romney who they knew they couldn't sell to a national audience anyway.
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I can't be sure that my experience is typical, but I didn't support Romney early on and I liked him more as the campaign went on. I certainly wouldn't describe him as a despised character within the GOP. It may be the case that your love for McCain is affecting how you think other people view Romney. (I don't mean anything insulting by this; I think it happens to us all.)
I think GOP voters will support McCain generally because they'd prefer him to the Democratic nominee, just as they would have supported Romney in the general had he won the delegates.
I don't know if McCain will really pull the independent votes in the general that people think he will, especially if Obama is the Democratic nominee.
I agree with you about 2012. I think voter turn out for the respective primaries reflects a certain apathy about any of the GOP candidates this time, and the party will have to do better.
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02-18-2008, 12:37 PM
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It's interesting to see the history out there so plainly. I never really thought that much about it before, but I agree I don't generally expect someone to win the GOP nomination on his or her first run, but instead, I think they put themselves out there to the national constituency and perform on that stage for a while. And then the next time(s), maybe.
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