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Old 02-08-2008, 10:21 PM
EE-BO EE-BO is offline
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You are absolutely ridiculous. I don't even know where to begin. If Mitt Romney is making stupid statements, then there hasn't even been a word invented yet to describe your posts.
Please don't think that the majority of Americans agree with you.
I don't live by polls- I could care less if a majority of Americans agree with me or not.

If I am so dumb in making my comment about Romney, then explain to me the accuracy and intelligence of someone who wanted to be the President of the United States stating that the entirety of Europe is in a bad way because they have abandoned "moral" practices (keeping in mind that his reference is to those of the Christian faith and therefore the huge percentage of Muslims living legally in Europe, by his own argument, aren't "real Europeans".)

History is rarely so consistent as in the ultimate fate of nations led by those who concern themselves more with promoting their own religious agenda than with the enormous and critical task of maintaining a country and its physical infrastructure.

How many bridges have collapsed in your city? How many levees have broken? Would you feel safe getting out of your car and walking into the hallways of an inner city school? How much in tolls are you paying on the freeways because state and federal funding can no longer pay for new roads?

Do you think Congress spending time and money fighting over legislation to ban same-sex couples from becoming legally united is more important than addressing issues like that?

What will make this nation a better place 50 years from now- fixing the Social Security crisis or making sure the Constitution is the new authority on access to a medical procedure?

This is why Romney lost and why Huckabee will not ultimately endure. It is why McCain has emerged the frontrunner even though the Republican Establishment cannot stand him.

McCain is the worst nightmare of both parties- Hillary or Obama could have easily beaten any of the other Republican candidates, and many "conservatives" have bought into this myth that bigger government in the form of morality-based legislation will actually save us from some horrible fate that awaits in the shadows ahead.

I happen to be strongly conservative. I believe in a very small central government with control given back to the states. I also have personal Pro-Life inclinations and believe that same-sex unions should be allowed. Marriage in the religious sense is a church matter and let the churches marry who they want- but all tax-paying Americans should have the right to legally partner with the person of their choice and enjoy the same legal protections as others.

But Bush Republicanism has not been about small central government- and neither has Romney. And just because I am pro-life does not mean I feel comfortable with the government making an arbitrary decision about one of the most personal decisions imaginable between a woman and her health care provider. This is where I have issues with Huckabee.

The base is upset because they got no true conservative. But McCain offers something even better- a pragmatic approach that could actually result in both sides getting together and doing something.

If Republicans really think that their big "family values" issues are what is most important above all else- then we better brace ourselves to become a party that never wins the Presidency again.

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Old 02-09-2008, 09:14 PM
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EE-BO:

Romney dropping out was a huge blow to conservatives (how is this person a moderator, BTW). His "scary" agenda? Seriously? Are you one of those who accuse candidates of using "politics of fear" because they acknowledge the threats posed to our country by Islamic extremism? This coming from the party that refuses to even acknowledge where the threat comes from?

I'm pretty sure Romney was referring to the "scary" explosion of radicalism in Europe, highlighted by the recent proclamation that Sharia in England is inevitable. Sure, great idea, can't wait till it gets to America!

I'm thankful that Mitt Romney won't allow something as idiotic as political correctness to get in the way of protecting our nation.
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Old 02-09-2008, 11:27 PM
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I don't live by polls- I could care less if a majority of Americans agree with me or not.

If I am so dumb in making my comment about Romney, then explain to me the accuracy and intelligence of someone who wanted to be the President of the United States stating that the entirety of Europe is in a bad way because they have abandoned "moral" practices (keeping in mind that his reference is to those of the Christian faith and therefore the huge percentage of Muslims living legally in Europe, by his own argument, aren't "real Europeans".)

History is rarely so consistent as in the ultimate fate of nations led by those who concern themselves more with promoting their own religious agenda than with the enormous and critical task of maintaining a country and its physical infrastructure.

How many bridges have collapsed in your city? How many levees have broken? Would you feel safe getting out of your car and walking into the hallways of an inner city school? How much in tolls are you paying on the freeways because state and federal funding can no longer pay for new roads?

Do you think Congress spending time and money fighting over legislation to ban same-sex couples from becoming legally united is more important than addressing issues like that?

What will make this nation a better place 50 years from now- fixing the Social Security crisis or making sure the Constitution is the new authority on access to a medical procedure?

This is why Romney lost and why Huckabee will not ultimately endure. It is why McCain has emerged the frontrunner even though the Republican Establishment cannot stand him.

McCain is the worst nightmare of both parties- Hillary or Obama could have easily beaten any of the other Republican candidates, and many "conservatives" have bought into this myth that bigger government in the form of morality-based legislation will actually save us from some horrible fate that awaits in the shadows ahead.

I happen to be strongly conservative. I believe in a very small central government with control given back to the states. I also have personal Pro-Life inclinations and believe that same-sex unions should be allowed. Marriage in the religious sense is a church matter and let the churches marry who they want- but all tax-paying Americans should have the right to legally partner with the person of their choice and enjoy the same legal protections as others.

But Bush Republicanism has not been about small central government- and neither has Romney. And just because I am pro-life does not mean I feel comfortable with the government making an arbitrary decision about one of the most personal decisions imaginable between a woman and her health care provider. This is where I have issues with Huckabee.

The base is upset because they got no true conservative. But McCain offers something even better- a pragmatic approach that could actually result in both sides getting together and doing something.

If Republicans really think that their big "family values" issues are what is most important above all else- then we better brace ourselves to become a party that never wins the Presidency again.
OUTSTANDING post, EE-BO. Again, we're not on the same page politically, but god, at least your posts are coherent and well-thought-out. I can completely respect someone with opposing viewpoints when they present them with clarity and objectivity as you have above.
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