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02-08-2008, 09:51 AM
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RUN RALPH RUN!!!!
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Oh Zeus and Hera, no! The man's as nuttier than Ron Paul.
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This white male will not be voting for president in november.
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Yeah. That's something to be proud of.
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02-07-2008, 10:19 PM
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Some friends and I were talking about this:
We think that some people (read: not all) will end up changing their minds when they are actually at the polls because the reality of the matter will sink in.
For instance, some (read: not all) racial and ethnic minorities who were not pushing for Obama may feel differently when they are actually about to vote. Some (read: not all) women who were not pushing for Clinton may feel differently when they are actually about to vote. Even people who said they weren't going to vote based on gender or race this entire time. Some (read: not all) racial and ethnic minority women may struggle with which is more salient and beneficial in the long run and this may result in a very last minute change of mind on their part.
To that extent, I honestly think some (read: not all) white liberals who have been pushing for Obama this entire time will change their minds when they get to the polls. Same goes for men who have been sounding progressive by supporting Clinton. Of course, people will say that I'm full of it for saying that, but it's hard to know what many people will choose when the reality of voting for a particular person who is a member of a particular GROUP sinks in. Regardless of the platforms. People want to feel progressive and unswayed by demographic factors, but when no one's there to monitor whether their gender or race-neutral progressive words translate into action, they might fall back.
Last edited by DSTCHAOS; 02-07-2008 at 10:22 PM.
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02-07-2008, 10:20 PM
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People are notorious for lying to pollsters. So there's that, too.
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02-07-2008, 11:14 PM
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The elephant, or donkey I guess in this case, in the room is that they discuss the white male Democratic vote in terms of race, sex, and generation but not platform. That's it. I'm not noting what's there as much as what is not.
eta - I'm apparently hallucinating now, so I think I'll go to bed.
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02-07-2008, 11:41 PM
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Originally Posted by SWTXBelle
The elephant, or donkey I guess in this case, in the room is that they discuss the white male Democratic vote in terms of race, sex, and generation but not platform. That's it. I'm not noting what's there as much as what is not.
eta - I'm apparently hallucinating now, so I think I'll go to bed. 
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You aren't hallucinating. I deleted my post because I think I was having a "duh" moment of my own and hallucinating that the article said something that it did not. So I decided to take a Law and Order and sandwich break.
Now I've re-read part of the article and completely see what your initial post was talking about.  The article does seem to assume that demographics were the decision making factor for the average black, female, and (hypothesized to be for the) white male voter. And that of course won't account for every voter's decision making process but is an attempt to observe and predict a trend. As long as there is a trend to observe that more or less goes along with their predictions, the results of their "census" won't be messed up.
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02-07-2008, 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS
You aren't hallucinating. I deleted my post because I think I was having a "duh" moment of my own and hallucinating that the article said something that it did not. So I decided to take a Law and Order and sandwich break.
Now I've re-read part of the article and completely see what your initial post was talking about.  The article does seem to assume that demographics were the decision making factor for the average black, female, and (hypothesized to be for the) white male voter. And that of course won't account for every voter's decision making process but is an attempt to observe and predict a trend. As long as there is a trend to observe that more or less goes along with their predictions, the results of their "census" won't be messed up.
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whatever you 2 are smoking.....I want some....
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02-07-2008, 11:50 PM
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whatever you 2 are smoking.....I want some....
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Will that make you respond to your own damn thread topic beyond a one sentence snippet?
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02-07-2008, 11:52 PM
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Will that make you respond to your own damn thread topic beyond a one sentence snippet? 
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Oh...you was waiting for me to respond to the craptastic thread I started?
Naw...I was having more fun watching you all...
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