Politics 2008:The Caucuses and The Dem/Rep Conventions

[Ten/Four]

Originally Posted by Honeykiss1974

Is anyone else listening to NPR right now? One of the topics was why blacks have been relunctant to support him (siting how major mainstream black orgs such as the NAACP, etc. have not came out publicly to support him).

One reason (I believe it was Clarence Paige that stated this) given was that blacks were waiting to see if he was truly "a black leader" (Jesse Jackson-esque) or that we were still enamored with the Clinton administration (hoping that Hilary will bring the same type of admin).

What do you guys think?

I think he proved back at the 2004 convention that he doesn't have to be limited to being "a black leader." Tavis Smiley always mentions about Obama that Hilary wouldn't even be a contender if Obama had similar polling numbers of black voters that Jesse had in '88. Honestly, I feel Obama is more electable because he appeals to a wide range of voters, which is needed when it comes to being president. No black candidate is going to be elected just by having the black vote (i.e. Al Sharpton).

[mccoyred]

Even though Hillary won the NH primary, statistically, it was a dead heat. They both received the same number of delegates (9). The popular vote was won by a margin of less than 3 percentage points; less than 8,000 votes out of almost 280,000 cast. Unlike the Republican race where there was a clear winner by over 5 percentage points. (Source: CNN.com with 96% of precincts reporting)

[Honeykiss1974]

By PHILIP ELLIOTT, Associated Press Writer

COLUMBIA, S.C. - One of Hillary Rodham Clinton's most prominent black supporters said Sunday he was insulted by the characterization by rival Barack Obama's presidential campaign of her remarks about the civil rights movement.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080114/...linton_johnson

[mccoyred]

Originally Posted by Honeykiss1974

By PHILIP ELLIOTT, Associated Press Writer

COLUMBIA, S.C. - One of Hillary Rodham Clinton's most prominent black supporters said Sunday he was insulted by the characterization by rival Barack Obama's presidential campaign of her remarks about the civil rights movement.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080114/...linton_johnson

While Bob Johnson is a brilliant businessman, I have little respect for him as a leader of Black America because he is responsible for that travesty called BET.

[Wonderful1908]

Originally Posted by mccoyred

While Bob Johnson is a brilliant businessman, I have little respect for him as a leader of Black America because he is responsible for that travesty called BET.

Ditto!

[AKA2D '91]

Edwards to drop out?


This is going to make the race for the Demo nod very interesting.

[mccoyred]

Originally Posted by AKA2D '91

Edwards to drop out?


This is going to make the race for the Demo nod very interesting.

Frankly, I think that he will end up as the running mate of the eventual winner. They both need someone like him - young, white, male, southern. Why not choose a familiar face?

[Honeykiss1974]

Originally Posted by mccoyred

While Bob Johnson is a brilliant businessman, I have little respect for him as a leader of Black America because he is responsible for that travesty called BET.

You took the words right out of my mouth.

[KAPital PHINUst]

Huckabee wins Iowa
McCain wins New Hampshire
Romney wins Michigan

A perfect storm is brewing. There is no GOP frontrunner.

To add to matters, Thompson and Guiliani (aka The Ghoul) have been getting their tails whipped consistently while Ron Paul is improving, placing from 5th in IA and NH to 4th in MI.

Paul will need to win (or at least place a strong 2nd) in at least one state before Super Tuesday if he is to have any real momentum going into Super Tuesday. Nevada could be that very state, while The Ghoul is banking on Florida.

If both goes according to plan, the perfect storm will lead right into Super Tuesday. Further weak standings by Thompson or The Ghoul might lead to one or both of them dropping on or shortly after Super Tuesday.

The Paul grassroots are trying to enlist the help of political analyst Richard Viguerie to be hired on by the campaign as campaign manager. Viguerie is known for helping catapult Ronald Reagan's campaign to winning the 1980 presidential election using his campaign expertise.

Anyway...we'll see what happens.

[mccoyred]

CNN projects Obama as the winner in SC. http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/01/...ef=mpstoryview