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Old 01-04-2008, 12:23 AM
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The Obama and Huckabee "Thank You" speeches after being declared winners of their Iowa caucuses could not have been any different. Go to www.cnn.com to watch the speeches.


Breaking news from CNN: Chris Dodd and Joe Biden have both decided to withdraw from the race.
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Old 01-04-2008, 12:34 AM
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Wow... Just wow. I get an email from Barack saying he won... Wow...

First the Fatboys break up and now this...
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Old 01-04-2008, 01:12 AM
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I am thrilled that Obama did so well. I also thought that his speech afterward was really powerful.
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Old 01-04-2008, 02:58 AM
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Old 01-04-2008, 04:54 AM
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Wow... Just wow. I get an email from Barack saying he won... Wow...

First the Fatboys break up and now this...
I got that same email! I was thrilled that that was the first email I got this morning. Thanks, Iowa!
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Old 01-04-2008, 10:13 AM
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The coverage I was watching showed statistics for different demographics (age, income, sex, etc.), and Obama overwhelmingly took the under 30 vote. I think that is interesting! It might also explain how he could pull out 8 points ahead when the polls had him at dead even - since so many young people don't have land line telephones to respond to polls.

I'm not registered to vote in TN's Democrat primary, so I haven't researched his ideas that in depth yet. But like UGAalum94, I could be easily motivated to vote for Obama depending on who the other candidate(s) is(are). There's absolutely no way whatsoever in a million years that I would vote for Hillary. And I'd even be forced to vote for another candidate that I detest just to vote against her. I think that if the Democrats want any hope of pulling Republicans in November, they should pick Obama.

It's going to be an interesting year! And I hope that the nominations are still undecided when the primaries come to Tennessee - I like feeling like my vote actually matters.
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Old 01-04-2008, 11:28 AM
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Old 01-04-2008, 04:23 PM
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If Obama is elected president of the United States, I will vomit nonstop until I die- and I'll be happy doing it because that means I won't have to live through the next four years.

No such luck. I've been vomitting nonstop for the last 7, and I've still had to endure the Bush-Cheney s#%@.
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Old 01-04-2008, 04:35 PM
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The coverage I was watching showed statistics for different demographics (age, income, sex, etc.), and Obama overwhelmingly took the under 30 vote. I think that is interesting! It might also explain how he could pull out 8 points ahead when the polls had him at dead even - since so many young people don't have land line telephones to respond to polls.

He also took the women's vote, 35% versus 30% for Hillary. That hurt her bad, and was a surprise to the political pundits.
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Old 01-04-2008, 04:44 PM
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He also took the women's vote, 35% versus 30% for Hillary. That hurt her bad, and was a surprise to the political pundits.
I don't know why it was such a shock. For starters, she's just not very likable. Couple that with the fact that many women of Gen X and Y (and a smidge older) probably don't have drive to put a woman in the Oval Office simply because she has ovaries. We weren't privy to the struggles of gaining equality like the older generations were. We had strong, competent women to look up to, like Sally Ride, Madeleine Albright, et al, and know deep down that it will be possible and probable that a woman will be president, because we were brought up with the message (and the proof) that women can be anything they want to be.
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Old 01-04-2008, 04:49 PM
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Obama Mama is a flash in the pan!

Hillary, well, we do not need her at all!

I like John but the hair deal scares me!

Fred is a big Teddy Bear, but comes across as a dopess!

Mitt, say good by sucker! No how much money you spent, you ain't it!
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Old 01-04-2008, 07:03 PM
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Iowa almost always votes differently than the national polls show, I'll be shocked if it isn't Hillary vs. Huckabee or Giuliani based on the nationwide polls I've seen.
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Old 01-04-2008, 07:46 PM
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Iowa almost always votes differently than the national polls show, I'll be shocked if it isn't Hillary vs. Huckabee or Giuliani based on the nationwide polls I've seen.
Except for the fact that Linn County has a 100% track record of picking the candidates in both fields... this year is was Obama and Romney. We shall see if their statistic holds up.
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Old 01-04-2008, 07:58 PM
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He also took the women's vote, 35% versus 30% for Hillary. That hurt her bad, and was a surprise to the political pundits.
I have lots of friends in Iowa, I don't know any of them that caucused for Hillary. Most were supporting either Obama, Edwards or Richardson.

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Iowa almost always votes differently than the national polls show, I'll be shocked if it isn't Hillary vs. Huckabee or Giuliani based on the nationwide polls I've seen.
Generally, the person who gets the nod from the party finishes in the top three (except '92 when IA Senator Tom Harkin ran). I found this on wikipedia in terms of how the caucuses have turned out and who got the nods:

Democrats:
January 19, 2004 - John Kerry, John Edwards, Howard Dean, Dick Gephardt, and Dennis Kucinich
January 24, 2000 - Al Gore and Bill Bradley
February 12, 1996 - Bill Clinton (unopposed)
February 10, 1992 - Tom Harkin, "Uncommitted", Paul Tsongas, Bill Clinton, Bob Kerrey, and Jerry Brown
February 8, 1988 - Dick Gephardt, Paul Simon, Michael Dukakis, and Bruce Babbitt
February 20, 1984 - Walter Mondale, Gary Hart, George McGovern, Alan Cranston, John Glenn, Reubin Askew, and Jesse Jackson
January 21, 1980 - Jimmy Carter and Ted Kennedy
January 19, 1976 - "Uncommitted", Jimmy Carter, Birch Bayh, Fred R. Harris, Morris Udall (6%), Sargent Shriver, and Henry M. Jackson
January 24, 1972 - "Uncommitted" (36%), Edmund Muskie, George McGovern, Hubert Humphrey, Eugene McCarthy, Shirley Chisholm, and Henry M. Jackson

Republicans:
2004- George W. Bush (unopposed)
2000- George W. Bush, Steve Forbes, Alan Keyes, Gary Bauer, John McCain, and Orrin Hatch
1996- Bob Dole, Pat Buchanan, Lamar Alexander, Steve Forbes, Phil Gramm, Alan Keyes, Richard Lugar, and Morry Taylor
1992- George H. W. Bush (unopposed)
1988- Bob Dole, Pat Robertson, George H. W. Bush, Jack Kemp, and Pete DuPont
1984- Ronald Reagan (unopposed)
1980- George H. W. Bush, Ronald Reagan, Howard Baker, John Connally, Phil Crane, John B. Anderson, and Bob Dole
1976- Gerald Ford and Ronald Reagan
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Old 01-04-2008, 08:43 PM
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Iowa almost always votes differently than the national polls show, I'll be shocked if it isn't Hillary vs. Huckabee or Giuliani based on the nationwide polls I've seen.
I sure hope you are wrong. With all the possibility in the fields right now, with those candidate, I feel like most of us would be right back to maybe bothering to vote simply to vote against someone.
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