Politics 2008:The Caucuses and The Dem/Rep Conventions

[sageofages]

Originally Posted by ChanelLover

Maybe its just me, but I'm not really feeling Obama.

I am not feeling it yet either.

It is feels almost "cult of personality", and I hope I am mistaken.

He is charming, he is charismatic, he is definitely easy on the eyes. He definitely energizes the under 30 crowd.

AND He has only been in the Senate for 2 years (elected 2005) and he has been campaigning for President for the last 9 months. He is an excellent community, grassroots organizer and he has some influential supporters (*cough*Oprah*cough*)

BUT, he is unproven on the international stage at this point.

...only time will tell...

Regardless I will support the democratic nominee over any of what the republican party has to offer...

[ChanelLover]

Originally Posted by sageofages

I am not feeling it yet either.

It is feels almost "cult of personality", and I hope I am mistaken.

He is charming, he is charismatic, he is definitely easy on the eyes. He definitely energizes the under 30 crowd.

AND He has only been in the Senate for 2 years (elected 2005) and he has been campaigning for President for the last 9 months. He is an excellent community, grassroots organizer and he has some influential supporters (*cough*Oprah*cough*)

BUT, he is unproven on the international stage at this point.

...only time will tell...

Regardless I will support the democratic nominee over any of what the republican party has to offer...

That's exactly how I feel. I feel like he would be a better candidate in 2012. But I will support whoever the Democratic nominee is as well.

[sageofages]

Originally Posted by ChanelLover

That's exactly how I feel. I feel like he would be a better candidate in 2012. But I will support whoever the Democratic nominee is as well.

Absolutely!!! Absolutely!!!

[Ten/Four]

Originally Posted by sageofages

BUT, he is unproven on the international stage at this point.

I don't feel this should disqualify him or anyone else for that matter. After all, George W. didn't have international experience either. This is the perfect time for him to run because it is a wide open field.

From the debates and speeches I've seen he more than holds his own against the other candidates. Not to mention his good fundraising and organizational efforts. That is what usually kills campaigns.

[sageofages]

Originally Posted by Ten/Four

I don't feel this should disqualify him or anyone else for that matter. After all, George W. didn't have international experience either. This is the perfect time for him to run because it is a wide open field.

From the debates and speeches I've seen he more than holds his own against the other candidates. Not to mention his good fundraising and organizational efforts. That is what usually kills campaigns.

Uh...WAY didn't feel for "W". Oh no no no no....not at all. So not a good analogy.

Didn't say that Obama wouldn't be great EVENTUALLY...just not feeling it yet. 2012 after a bit more national governmental experience, yes.

[AKA2D '91]

Originally Posted by sageofages

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Didn't say that Obama wouldn't be great EVENTUALLY...just not feeling it yet. 2012 after a bit more national governmental experience, yes.

I don't have a "candidate" yet. However, ^^^ sounds like the thinking when Jindal (Gov-Elect, LA) ran against Blanco. I didn't think he would win even after his "experience". It's a new day and he won. Maybe his "lack" of experience is what the White House/ politics in general needs. We are/ will be coming off of George W. Bush, so anyone should serve the country better than him. :smirk:

[mccoyred]

Originally Posted by AKA2D '91

Maybe his "lack" of experience is what the White House/ politics in general needs. We are/ will be coming off of George W. Bush, so anyone should serve the country better than him. :smirk:

I feel that this is a strong point for Obama - his lack of political baggage (favors, alliances, scandal, etc.).

Any thoughts on a potential running mate for him ?
<< Being optimistic and hope I'm not jumping the gun

[Ten/Four]

Originally Posted by AKA2D '91

I don't have a "candidate" yet. However, ^^^ sounds like the thinking when Jindal (Gov-Elect, LA) ran against Blanco. I didn't think he would win even after his "experience". It's a new day and he won. Maybe his "lack" of experience is what the White House/ politics in general needs. We are/ will be coming off of George W. Bush, so anyone should serve the country better than him. :smirk:

/hijack
It's funny you mention Jindal. He looked like a deer caught in the headlights for all his commericials.
/end hijack

Some people I've talked haven't decided between Obama and Clinton, but said they're more likely to vote for Obama because they didn't want another Clinton administration.

[AKA2D '91]

How electable is Obama? If he wins the democratic nomination, will he be able to win the election? Regardless of how he has done or does in the caucuses or primaries, can he realistically win the electorate votes to become the next President of the US?

I don't have a candidate; just something I thought about while hearing a discussion on the radio this morning.

Your thoughts?

[Wonderful1908]

You know I was like no way until Iowa, simply because the record voter turnout. The fact that he carried that state really surpirsed me, and even though it is a small state I truly believe the big ticket states like California, New York and Florida could possibly carry him over. Its all the other smaller states and Texas that could possibly keep him back.

Whatever the case lets pause to enjoy the history. A Black man or a woman may possibly be our next president, I would have gone to the grave never expecting that in my lifetime.

[mccoyred]

Originally Posted by Wonderful1908

You know I was like no way until Iowa, simply because the record voter turnout. The fact that he carried that state really surpirsed me, and even though it is a small state I truly believe the big ticket states like California, New York and Florida could possibly carry him over. Its all the other smaller states and Texas that could possibly keep him back.

Whatever the case lets pause to enjoy the history. A Black man or a woman may possibly be our next president, I would have gone to the grave never expecting that in my lifetime.

I hear you on that. Even if he is not elected president but wins the Democratic nomination, that is history in itself. Maybe when my baby son (now 10 years old) becomes president, he won't be the first Black to do so

[Ten/Four]

Originally Posted by AKA2D '91

How electable is Obama? If he wins the democratic nomination, will he be able to win the election? Regardless of how he has done or does in the caucuses or primaries, can he realistically win the electorate votes to become the next President of the US?

I don't have a candidate; just something I thought about while hearing a discussion on the radio this morning.

Your thoughts?

Was it TJMS? Tom Joyner & Cheryl Underwood did a really funny commentary this morning. Cheryl was saying we should "play dumb" when it came to Obama to make sure he wins.

But, to answer your question I think him winning the Iowa caucus justified some of the media hype. I'm just thinking back to Howard Dean who had young adult support and media hype, but the campaign faultered. (On a side note...Dean did teach the Dems how to use new media to raise money). New Hampshire is the next test to see if Obama can continue the momentum and pull in the independant voters. He has to at least come in second.

His fundraising strength will keep him in the race, and if he is the Democratic nominee that will give him a fighting chance from a media buying standpoint. It shouldn't be about money, but that's now a big part of it. On the issues I think he'll stand his ground against the Republican nominee.

[AKA2D '91]

No. It was our local "home team" morning show.