Politics 2008:The Caucuses and The Dem/Rep Conventions

[NinjaPoodle]

Originally Posted by Ten/Four

I'm so happy and proud that Obama won last night. And his speech afterwards was on point.

I am too

[ChanelLover]

Maybe its just me, but I'm not really feeling Obama.

[sageofages]

Originally Posted by ChanelLover

Maybe its just me, but I'm not really feeling Obama.

I am not feeling it yet either.

It is feels almost "cult of personality", and I hope I am mistaken.

He is charming, he is charismatic, he is definitely easy on the eyes. He definitely energizes the under 30 crowd.

AND He has only been in the Senate for 2 years (elected 2005) and he has been campaigning for President for the last 9 months. He is an excellent community, grassroots organizer and he has some influential supporters (*cough*Oprah*cough*)

BUT, he is unproven on the international stage at this point.

...only time will tell...

Regardless I will support the democratic nominee over any of what the republican party has to offer...

[ChanelLover]

Originally Posted by sageofages

I am not feeling it yet either.

It is feels almost "cult of personality", and I hope I am mistaken.

He is charming, he is charismatic, he is definitely easy on the eyes. He definitely energizes the under 30 crowd.

AND He has only been in the Senate for 2 years (elected 2005) and he has been campaigning for President for the last 9 months. He is an excellent community, grassroots organizer and he has some influential supporters (*cough*Oprah*cough*)

BUT, he is unproven on the international stage at this point.

...only time will tell...

Regardless I will support the democratic nominee over any of what the republican party has to offer...

That's exactly how I feel. I feel like he would be a better candidate in 2012. But I will support whoever the Democratic nominee is as well.

[sageofages]

Originally Posted by ChanelLover

That's exactly how I feel. I feel like he would be a better candidate in 2012. But I will support whoever the Democratic nominee is as well.

Absolutely!!! Absolutely!!!

[Ten/Four]

Originally Posted by sageofages

BUT, he is unproven on the international stage at this point.

I don't feel this should disqualify him or anyone else for that matter. After all, George W. didn't have international experience either. This is the perfect time for him to run because it is a wide open field.

From the debates and speeches I've seen he more than holds his own against the other candidates. Not to mention his good fundraising and organizational efforts. That is what usually kills campaigns.

[sageofages]

Originally Posted by Ten/Four

I don't feel this should disqualify him or anyone else for that matter. After all, George W. didn't have international experience either. This is the perfect time for him to run because it is a wide open field.

From the debates and speeches I've seen he more than holds his own against the other candidates. Not to mention his good fundraising and organizational efforts. That is what usually kills campaigns.

Uh...WAY didn't feel for "W". Oh no no no no....not at all. So not a good analogy.

Didn't say that Obama wouldn't be great EVENTUALLY...just not feeling it yet. 2012 after a bit more national governmental experience, yes.

[AKA2D '91]

Originally Posted by sageofages

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Didn't say that Obama wouldn't be great EVENTUALLY...just not feeling it yet. 2012 after a bit more national governmental experience, yes.

I don't have a "candidate" yet. However, ^^^ sounds like the thinking when Jindal (Gov-Elect, LA) ran against Blanco. I didn't think he would win even after his "experience". It's a new day and he won. Maybe his "lack" of experience is what the White House/ politics in general needs. We are/ will be coming off of George W. Bush, so anyone should serve the country better than him. :smirk:

[mccoyred]

Originally Posted by AKA2D '91

Maybe his "lack" of experience is what the White House/ politics in general needs. We are/ will be coming off of George W. Bush, so anyone should serve the country better than him. :smirk:

I feel that this is a strong point for Obama - his lack of political baggage (favors, alliances, scandal, etc.).

Any thoughts on a potential running mate for him ?
<< Being optimistic and hope I'm not jumping the gun

[Ten/Four]

Originally Posted by AKA2D '91

I don't have a "candidate" yet. However, ^^^ sounds like the thinking when Jindal (Gov-Elect, LA) ran against Blanco. I didn't think he would win even after his "experience". It's a new day and he won. Maybe his "lack" of experience is what the White House/ politics in general needs. We are/ will be coming off of George W. Bush, so anyone should serve the country better than him. :smirk:

/hijack
It's funny you mention Jindal. He looked like a deer caught in the headlights for all his commericials.
/end hijack

Some people I've talked haven't decided between Obama and Clinton, but said they're more likely to vote for Obama because they didn't want another Clinton administration.

[AKA2D '91]

How electable is Obama? If he wins the democratic nomination, will he be able to win the election? Regardless of how he has done or does in the caucuses or primaries, can he realistically win the electorate votes to become the next President of the US?

I don't have a candidate; just something I thought about while hearing a discussion on the radio this morning.

Your thoughts?

[mccoyred]

Putting aside all of the experience vs eloquence personality issues THIS is the kind of issue that will have long-term effects on our country, i.e. Supreme Court nominations and other judicial appointments FOR LIFE, presidential cabinet and other national security advisors, ambassadors to the UN and other countries, etc.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/paul-j...h_b_87953.html

EXCERPT

This lack of vision by the candidate herself was compounded by her senior staff, a deeply unappealing group whose arrogance continues to damage her campaign, and who seem unable to convey the most basic truths to their boss. That she has surrounded herself with relative incompetents such as Mark Penn, Howard Wolfson and Patti Solis Doyle is obviously one of her biggest failings, and should give pause to anyone reflecting on the kind of staffing choices she would have to make as president.