2007-2008 NCAA Football

[macallan25]

Originally Posted by jojapeach

You're right. Wishful thinking it was (and unwavering favortism and faith in my team), but I just don't see how a team that loss it's #1 ranking to an unranked team in triple overtime deserves to play for the national title. Yes, they're the SEC champs, but it wasn't won by a sound beating. Just 21 - 14 over Tennessee. Not very impressive.

Besides, Michigan was denied the #2 slot last year because they had their one shot at #1 against Ohio State. LSU is being granted a third stinking shot at #1. I already knew this, but GAWD THE BCS SUCKS!

Lastly, no written rule that says you must be the Conference Champs. Now, I hate LSU more than ever. (But I can't cheer for Ohio State. Never.)

Not very impressive? They used a backup that did nothing but run the ball all year and hadn't thrown a pass in a month. 464 yards of offense w/ 200+ yards rushing on a fairly good defense is pretty impressive.

No, their isn't a rule saying you have to be your conference champs. There shouldn't have to be. It should be understood by everyone who isn't void of rational thought that if you don't even make your conference championship game you have no business being in the national title game. Shouldn't have lost to Tennessee or South Carolina.

The only team, in my opinion, that had a pretty solid argument for getting in the BCS Championship was Oklahoma....and that was a shaky argument at best. Some will say USC had a claim also.....I'm not buying it. Losing to Stanford at home, not being the least bit dominant in any game except Notre Dame.....not impressive.

[jojapeach]

Originally Posted by macallan25

Not very impressive? They used a backup that did nothing but run the ball all year and hadn't thrown a pass in a month. 464 yards of offense w/ 200+ yards rushing on a fairly good defense is pretty impressive.

Ehhh.... Your opinion.

Originally Posted by macallan25

No, their isn't a rule saying you have to be your conference champs. There shouldn't have to be. It should be understood by everyone who isn't void of rational thought that if you don't even make your conference championship game you have no business being in the national title game. Shouldn't have lost to Tennessee or South Carolina.

Touche. A lot of fans have rational thought, but we have a great deal of optimism, hope, and faith when it comes to the Dawgs. Alas, all of that was not competition for the BCS. Agree to disagree...?

[Benzgirl]

http://www.cleveland.com/osufootball...620.xml&coll=2
...from page two...
" John Humenik saw the difference when he left as Michigan's sport information director to take the same job at Florida in 1982. Living Big Ten football - the Rose Bowl, Bo Schembechler, Ohio State-Michigan - he thought he was ready.
"From the moment I walked in the door, it was noticeable," said Humenik, who retired at Florida in 2002. "Everything was just different. You could ratchet it up about 10 times or so."
Oklahoma fans F.J. and Amy Rice dealt with that four years ago when they followed their son, Jacob, to the 2004 Sugar Bowl. He was the Sooners' long snapper in that 21-14 national title loss to LSU, and his parents experienced a week they'll never forget. Amy Rice said it started with a drive through the LSU campus in Baton Rouge, when a young female jogger saw the Oklahoma decals on their cars and cursed at them once, then did it again to make sure they heard. It continued in New Orleans.
"They yell the rudest things, and not fun things, either," Amy Rice said. "It's not a friendly rivalry, it's an ugly rivalry. When I saw who was playing, I said, 'Oh, those poor Ohio State people, they'll be like we were. It'll be a home game for LSU, and they are so dadgum mean.' "
While praising fans of other schools Oklahoma faced away from home - Alabama, Oregon, Southern Cal, Colorado, Nebraska - F.P. Rice said he was shocked and unprepared for what he faced in New Orleans.
"It's one thing when college kids do it, but it's another thing when adults decide they're going to destroy your entire weekend," he said.
Rice was so upset, he sent a letter to the editor of a Louisiana newspaper. After it was published, he said he received several angry letters back from LSU fans, with one that included the expectorate of the writer. "

[Benzgirl]

Originally Posted by SECdomination

Hope no one thinks I'm another arrogant SEC fan for posting this!

Now why would we think that?
I was on the bandwagon the first time I saw your signature. Now, go to a party and roll your tide.

[nittanyalum]

Originally Posted by SECdomination

(current) Conference Bowl Standings for everyone who believes bowl games are the indicators of the best conferences...

Pac10 3-2
Big10 2-1
BigEast 1-1
ACC 2-1
Big12 1-2
SEC 2-0

Hope no one thinks I'm another arrogant SEC fan for posting this!

No, I just don't know what you think this "proves" other than that so far, the Pac10 has won the most games and the Big 10, ACC and SEC have ALL won 2 games. And....???

[jojapeach]

Originally Posted by nittanyalum

No, I just don't know what you think this "proves" other than that so far, the Pac10 has won the most games and the Big 10, ACC and SEC have ALL won 2 games. And....???

And as of 12/31, the SEC remains the only undefeated conference in bowl games at 4-0. You can spout all the other stats you like, but SECDomination said his record posting was for those of us that think bowl game W-L indicates which conference is the best. Actually, this is just very entertaining and heart-warming for us SEC fans.

[DeltAlum]

Originally Posted by SECdomination

The point is that the SEC has not lost yet. And because we've only played three games, that means our teams are going to better bowls and beating better teams later in the bowl season.

UPDATED AGAIN ^^^

Sorry PhiGam, Firehouse, FSUZeta, etc...

WAR EAGLE!

Confusing.

Does it also mean that less SEC teams have been bowl eligible?

Apple, meet Orange.

[carnation]

Wooo! WARRRRR EAGLE!! HEY!!!! 23-20!

[AOIIalum]

Originally Posted by DeltAlum

Does it also mean that less SEC teams have been bowl eligible?

The SEC had 10 of 12 teams bowl eligible (83.3%) with 9 teams (75%) earning bowl bids. As of this morning, the SEC is 4/4 (100%) and the only undefeated conference. With four more games today and the National Championship game next week, we'll see what happens.

Team (Ranking) Record Bowl Bid/Results

Georgia (4) 10-2 Sugar Bowl

Tennessee (16) 9-4 Won Outback Bowl

Florida (9) 9-3 Lost to Michigan in Capital One Bowl!!!

Kentucky 8-5 WON Music City!!!

South Carolina 6-6 Bowl eligible--no bid

Vanderbilt 5-7 Not eligible

LSU (2) 11-2 BCS Championship Game

Auburn (22) 9-4 Won Chick-fil-A bowl

Arkansas (25) 8-4 Lost Cotton Bowl

Mississippi State 8-5 Won Liberty Bowl

Alabama 7-6 Won Independence Bowl

Mississippi 3-9 Not Eligible

[Benzgirl]

Originally Posted by AOIIalum

The SEC had 10 of 12 teams bowl eligible (83.3%) with 9 teams (75%) earning bowl bids. As of this morning, the SEC is 4/4 (100%) and the only undefeated conference.

They should win, based on the way the SEC puts together recruiting classes. Speaking only on the Big Ten and SEC... the Big Ten instituted a policy where teams could oversign by no more than three players. The SEC is among the conferences with no guidelines.

According to Scout.com, SEC teams lined up an average of 101 commitments during the 2004-07 period. The Big Ten Teams averaged 85 recuits for the same time period.\

For the 2007 year alone the number of average recruits per conference were as follows:

SEC 26.3
Conf USA 25.3
Big 12 25.1
Big East 24.4
MWC 23.8
Pac 10 22.7
MAC 21.8
ACC 21.7
Sunbelt 21.6
WAC 21.4
Big Ten 19.9

The only thing I can compare this with is the Yankees total salaries vs. the rest of baseball.

[Benzgirl]

Originally Posted by SECdomination

Congratulations Michigan fans...it was not deserved, but very well earned.

That is rude

[PhiGam]

Originally Posted by SECdomination

Congratulations Michigan fans...it was not deserved, but very well earned.

My Gators may have played poorly and ended the season with a loss, but rest assured, the LSU Tigers will NOT!
Bring on another beating for Ohio State, bring on the SEC dominance, and bring on Emmanuel Moody and a No.1 Preseason ranking in 2008!

I was really happy for Lloyd Carr, hes a very nice guy who I've had the pleasure of talking to on numerous occasions. It was pretty cool seeing Michigan running a spread, they should have been running it all year with their personnel.
And what do you mean by not deserved? They took advantage of your weak secondary and put up almost 600 yards.

[starang21]

Originally Posted by SECdomination

Congratulations Michigan fans...it was not deserved

that's why they play the games. nothing is deserved in college football. especially after this year.

[TSteven]

Current Conference Bowl Standings

Southeastern: 6-2 75.00% (Louisiana State v. Ohio State)
Pacific Ten: 4-2 66.67% (conference bowl season over)
Big Twelve: 4-2 66.67% (Oklahoma v. West Virginia, Kansas v. Virginia Tech)
Big Ten: 3-4 42.86% (Ohio State v. Louisiana State)
Big East: 1-2 33.33% (West Virginia v. Oklahoma, Rutgers v. Ball State)
Atlantic Coast: 2-5 28.57% (Virginia Tech v. Kansas)

[TSteven]

Final Conference Bowl Standings

Southeastern: 7-2 (77.78%)
Pacific Ten: 4-2 (66.67%)
Big Twelve: 5-3 (62.50%)
Big East: 3-2 (60.00%)
Big Ten: 3-5 (37.50%)
Atlantic Coast: 2-6 (25.00%)