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12-12-2007, 11:02 AM
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When someone dies because of it.
In all honesty the dad probably thought he was being a good father as she was the youngest of 8 and the others probably had similar rules (although the male-female rules are probably different) so even if she'd grown up with those rules until she turned 18 it's not necesssarily "too strict."
Her murder however is terrible and tragic.
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12-12-2007, 12:00 PM
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12-12-2007, 02:12 PM
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When someone dies because of it.
In all honesty the dad probably thought he was being a good father as she was the youngest of 8 and the others probably had similar rules (although the male-female rules are probably different) so even if she'd grown up with those rules until she turned 18 it's not necesssarily "too strict."
Her murder however is terrible and tragic.
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You know, it's quite possible that she'd have to live with these rules even after she turned 18. With a dad like that, it would have not been likely that she'd be allowed to go away to school.
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12-12-2007, 02:23 PM
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You know, it's quite possible that she'd have to live with these rules even after she turned 18. With a dad like that, it would have not been likely that she'd be allowed to go away to school.
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This took place in Canada, and I'm not familar with Canada's laws, but I thought that 18 was still the age of "adulthood" - she may not have been "allowed" to go away for school, but there wouldn't have been anything her dad could have done to stop her at that point. The article said she had lived in a shelter, so obviously, she would have done what it takes to get out on her own, even if that means being homeless.
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12-12-2007, 02:32 PM
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This took place in Canada, and I'm not familar with Canada's laws, but I thought that 18 was still the age of "adulthood" - she may not have been "allowed" to go away for school, but there wouldn't have been anything her dad could have done to stop her at that point. The article said she had lived in a shelter, so obviously, she would have done what it takes to get out on her own, even if that means being homeless.
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Many of the girls killed by parents or relatives were adults over 18 years of age. In any case, when you live with your parents, whether you're 6 or 46, you're still a "child" to them and live by "their rules." Even if she lived in a shelter, it's quite possible that someone can find her, especially if she's going to school. Many immigrant communities are very tight-knit.
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12-12-2007, 02:36 PM
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Many of the girls killed by parents or relatives were adults over 18 years of age. In any case, when you live with your parents, whether you're 6 or 46, you're still a "child" to them and live by "their rules." Even if she lived in a shelter, it's quite possible that someone can find her, especially if she's going to school. Many immigrant communities are very tight-knit.
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You're missing my point. It's possible that if she made it to 18, she would have taken off, full speed ahead - possibly to another provence on the other side of the country, and never looked back, and there would have been nothing her dad could have done to stop her.
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12-12-2007, 02:56 PM
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You're missing my point. It's possible that if she made it to 18, she would have taken off, full speed ahead - possibly to another provence on the other side of the country, and never looked back, and there would have been nothing her dad could have done to stop her.
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right...but her *brother* tricked her into coming home for a change of clothes!!!!!! This was all premeditated! Her brother should be charged as well.
It is all about family "honor" and what constitutes disgrace. How killing your willful daughter restores family honor and removes disgrace is beyond me...
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12-12-2007, 03:04 PM
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right...but her *brother* tricked her into coming home for a change of clothes!!!!!! This was all premeditated! Her brother should be charged as well.
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I'm not sure why you quoted me, since this still has nothing to do with leaving with the intent of never returning, but since you did...
Where did you get the idea that her brother tricked her, and that the murder was premeditated? Her brother might not have been acting under direction from the father, and you can't tell either way from the article. Also, if the murder was premeditated, the father probably wouldn't have called 911.
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12-12-2007, 03:04 PM
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It is all about family "honor" and what constitutes disgrace. How killing your willful daughter restores family honor and removes disgrace is beyond me...
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I totally agree! How can a parent think discipline goes to the point of death. So if you do not obey I will kill you. How about kicking them out of the house if it is too bad. I am still looking like  about this story.
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12-12-2007, 03:37 PM
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If she had left with the intent to never return, why did she return to her house with her brother? Her brother brought her back to the house to "get a change of clothes", ok, granted he was acting on his father's request.
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I DON'T think she had the intent never to return.
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This is just ridiculous!!!
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