One Person - Two Sororities

SydneyK · #1 10-29-2007, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by violetpretty

Then what is the point of loyalty and vows? If you can just change sororities as is convenient for you, then do your vows really mean anything?

Since BadCat mentioned that society allows women to change husbands, the same question could be asked about divorce and remarriage. What about their vows and loyalty? I'm not trying to say BC is right, and that the NPC rule needs to be changed, but her comparison is valid. It's an unfortunate trend that people all too often enter into something, take the necessary vows, and then change their minds later. Doesn't make it right... but it certainly happens.

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That's why there is a 6-8 week period where new members are able to decide if they are able to make the lifetime commitment of joining a sorority.

And here's where I say that 6-8 weeks for an 18 year-old seems like a lifetime. I'm sure there are exceptions to the rule, but I would think that most college freshmen don't fully grasp the gravity of "lifetime commitment". I sincerely doubt that, within 6-8 weeks, they'll be able to discern whether they're prepared to make a lifetime commitment to the organization. Sure, they all think they do... but it's easy to say that when you're dying to be initiated! The "lifetime" part of the commitment can only be made as time passes.

I'm kinda rambling along here without a point... sorry. It's Monday.

FSUZeta · #2 10-29-2007, 06:46 PM

you made perfect sense....even if it is monday.

i think that the pledge/new member period is too brief. zeta revealed a new new member program over the summer and whittled it down to about 5-6 weeks. i hope they ask all the collegiate vp-2's(new member coordinator) for input, since they experienced a different program as new members.

ZTAngel · #3 10-29-2007, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by FSUZeta

you made perfect sense....even if it is monday.

i think that the pledge/new member period is too brief. zeta revealed a new new member program over the summer and whittled it down to about 5-6 weeks. i hope they ask all the collegiate vp-2's(new member coordinator) for input, since they experienced a different program as new members.

Ugh. I know my opinion is completely politically incorrect but I think the new member period should be way longer and that all pledges (yes, I said pledges) should be required to know the sorority history as well as chapter history before initiation. I think they should know the names of all the sisters and pledge sisters as well as where each is from along with their majors. The fraternities do that and I really feel as though the fraternities brothers have a much stronger bond to each other than I ever could have had with my sisters. I don't think hazing is ok but I don't see anything wrong with initiating the girls at the start of the next semester after they learn more about their sorority and sisters.

SWTXBelle · #4 10-30-2007, 07:51 AM

I still like the idea of having to make your grades before you are initiated - which requires a semester-long pledgeship.

NutBrnHair · #5 10-30-2007, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by SWTXBelle

I still like the idea of having to make your grades before you are initiated - which requires a semester-long pledgeship.

Chi Omega still requires grades prior to initiation. We never changed & I think it's a very good thing.

FSUZeta · #6 10-30-2007, 02:09 PM

at my daughters chapter, each sister makes an infomation page about herself , including hometown,major, photos, family info.(real and greek family) interesting facts about them, etc. they give this to the new member trainer who makes copies and inserts them in a notebook-one for each new member.

the new members are not quizzed on this information, but it does help the new members get to know the older girls.

33girl · #7 10-30-2007, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by FSUZeta

at my daughters chapter, each sister makes an infomation page about herself , including hometown,major, photos, family info.(real and greek family) interesting facts about them, etc. they give this to the new member trainer who makes copies and inserts them in a notebook-one for each new member.

the new members are not quizzed on this information, but it does help the new members get to know the older girls.

We had a list kind of like that too - just name, home & school address, age, pledge year, big/little and what they collected (in case they turned out to be our secret Santa and we needed ideas).

After I graduated they started having the pledges make a scrapbook page about themselves - one side informative and one "fun" side.

violetpretty · #8 10-30-2007, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by SWTXBelle

I still like the idea of having to make your grades before you are initiated - which requires a semester-long pledgeship.

Or just deferring recruitment so you only give bids to PNMs who have proven themselves academically.

NutBrnHair · #9 10-30-2007, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by violetpretty

Or just deferring recruitment so you only give bids to PNMs who have proven themselves academically.

Eeek, no -- then you'll be sure to have smart pledges, but fewer of them!

violetpretty · #10 10-30-2007, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by NutBrnHair

Eeek, no -- then you'll be sure to have smart pledges, but fewer of them!

There are pros and cons to fall and spring FMR but this isn't really the thread for that.

AnchorAlumna · #11 11-09-2007, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by violetpretty

Or just deferring recruitment so you only give bids to PNMs who have proven themselves academically.

Deferred recruitment means you actually rush all semester long...a semester -long opportunity for dirty rushing...a semester-long rumor- and gossip-mill...I hate deferred recruitment!

FSUZeta · #12 10-30-2007, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by ZTAngel

Ugh. I know my opinion is completely politically incorrect but I think the new member period should be way longer and that all pledges (yes, I said pledges) should be required to know the sorority history as well as chapter history before initiation. I think they should know the names of all the sisters and pledge sisters as well as where each is from along with their majors. The fraternities do that and I really feel as though the fraternities brothers have a much stronger bond to each other than I ever could have had with my sisters. I don't think hazing is ok but I don't see anything wrong with initiating the girls at the start of the next semester after they learn more about their sorority and sisters.

agree with you sister!

Cane94G8r97 · #13 10-30-2007, 08:36 AM

I was a charter member of a recolonization pledge class. My pledge period was oh about 9 months long... so, yes, I think 6 weeks is too short!

33girl · #14 10-30-2007, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by ZTAngel

Ugh. I know my opinion is completely politically incorrect but I think the new member period should be way longer and that all pledges (yes, I said pledges) should be required to know the sorority history as well as chapter history before initiation. I think they should know the names of all the sisters and pledge sisters as well as where each is from along with their majors. The fraternities do that and I really feel as though the fraternities brothers have a much stronger bond to each other than I ever could have had with my sisters. I don't think hazing is ok but I don't see anything wrong with initiating the girls at the start of the next semester after they learn more about their sorority and sisters.

Agree 100%. I know that with 200 person chapters that can be hard, but you should at least TRY. Some people make a habit of squeaking by with the bare minimum.