Five Towson Sororities on Probation (Alcohol)

[ihatesquirrels]

Originally Posted by MaggieXi

Can I ask who exposed these photos? I'm only asking because I find it surprising that actives would have public profiles for anyone to go in and look at their pictures. Especially if it is during recruitment!

a sorority on this campus who had an unsuccessful rush and is jealous of all the other sororities because they are essentially the worst chapter. they targeted one chapter in particular and their advisor took pictures of them drinking in the parking garage, in the union, and on the field. this caused the tu administration to further look into the situation, and they found more pictures on facebook from four of the other chapters.

instead of focusing their energy trying to make their own chapter better and focus on how to recruit better, they choose to do this. oh well.

hmmm... i wonder why no one wants to join their sorority...

[kddani]

Originally Posted by ihatesquirrels

a sorority on this campus who had an unsuccessful rush and is jealous of all the other sororities because they are essentially the worst chapter. they targeted one chapter in particular and their advisor took pictures of them drinking in the parking garage, in the union, and on the field. this caused the tu administration to further look into the situation, and they found more pictures on facebook from four of the other chapters.

instead of focusing their energy trying to make their own chapter better and focus on how to recruit better, they choose to do this. oh well.

hmmm... i wonder why no one wants to join their sorority...

Perhaps instead of blaming this chapter, the groups that were "targeted" should blame themselves for drinking in the parking garage, union and field. That's pretty stupid and if you do that you deserve to get busted.

[AnatraAmore]

Originally Posted by ihatesquirrels

a sorority on this campus who had an unsuccessful rush and is jealous of all the other sororities because they are essentially the worst chapter. they targeted one chapter in particular and their advisor took pictures of them drinking in the parking garage, in the union, and on the field. this caused the tu administration to further look into the situation, and they found more pictures on facebook from four of the other chapters.

instead of focusing their energy trying to make their own chapter better and focus on how to recruit better, they choose to do this. oh well.

hmmm... i wonder why no one wants to join their sorority...

I think it's insane that this clearly went on for many years and the adminstration knew, but didn't stop it. On the other hand, it's a stupid thing to do and everyone involved should be glad that someone didn't get seriously hurt or worse because of the behavior. It would be nice to see the girls (or if it's a chapterwide problem, chapters) stepping up and taking responsibility for the stupidity of their actions instead of blaming another chapter for turning them in and blaming it on jealously regarding recruitment results. Since drinking at Bid Day festivities violates NPC agreements, we know that having any alcohol at Bid Day is in violation of policy and something SHOULD have been done.

[texas*princess]

Originally Posted by AnatraAmore

I think it's insane that this clearly went on for many years and the adminstration knew, but didn't stop it. On the other hand, it's a stupid thing to do and everyone involved should be glad that someone didn't get seriously hurt or worse because of the behavior. It would be nice to see the girls (or if it's a chapterwide problem, chapters) stepping up and taking responsibility for the stupidity of their actions instead of blaming another chapter for turning them in and blaming it on jealously regarding recruitment results. Since drinking at Bid Day festivities violates NPC agreements, we know that having any alcohol at Bid Day is in violation of policy and something SHOULD have been done.

I couldn't agree more.

The bottom line is, people where KNOWINGLY breaking the rules. They didn't expect to get busted, but they finally did.

Now they are all pissy because they were busted and are crying about the leanest sentence ever. They could have been on probation ALL ACADEMIC YEAR, but they essentially got four months.

So what? They can schedule their formals and mixers for the year around it.

I hope the chapter leadership, advisors included, will step up to the plate so that their own sistes don't embarrass them again next year.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by ibroketherules

a sorority on this campus who had an unsuccessful rush and is jealous of all the other sororities because they are essentially the worst chapter. they targeted one chapter in particular and their advisor took pictures of them drinking in the parking garage, in the union, and on the field. this caused the tu administration to further look into the situation, and they found more pictures on facebook from four of the other chapters.

instead of focusing their energy trying to make their own chapter better and focus on how to recruit better, they choose to do this. oh well.

hmmm... i wonder why no one wants to join their sorority...

Aw, someone got busted? Perhaps if you weren't breaking the rules whether you were of the "targetted" chapter or just one who was idiotic enough to post drunken pictures on facebook, you wouldn't have gotten caught.


Seriously, this is a bit like "Well I speed by there all the time and I've never gotten a ticket, so the cop shouldn't get to pull me over THIS time." Just because no one busted you before doesn't mean you didn't deserve it, nor does it mean that you should get some sort of pass.

Focus on hating on the people who "got you caught" because that clearly addresses the problem

[nittanyalum]

Originally Posted by ihatesquirrels

a sorority on this campus who had an unsuccessful rush and is jealous of all the other sororities because they are essentially the worst chapter. they targeted one chapter in particular and their advisor took pictures of them drinking in the parking garage, in the union, and on the field. this caused the tu administration to further look into the situation, and they found more pictures on facebook from four of the other chapters.

instead of focusing their energy trying to make their own chapter better and focus on how to recruit better, they choose to do this. oh well.

hmmm... i wonder why no one wants to join their sorority...

Your (I'm assuming sock-puppet) user name is unnecessary and the barely "blind" reference to your fellow panhellenic GLO is similarly unnecessary. Don't break standing NPC rules just because you think your chapter is "cool" enough to be above them. No one is and you do your GLO and all greeks a disservice when you blame others for your getting caught making poor decisions that have consequences.

[AlphaXi4983]

Originally Posted by ihatesquirrels

a sorority on this campus who had an unsuccessful rush and is jealous of all the other sororities because they are essentially the worst chapter. they targeted one chapter in particular and their advisor took pictures of them drinking in the parking garage, in the union, and on the field. this caused the tu administration to further look into the situation, and they found more pictures on facebook from four of the other chapters.

instead of focusing their energy trying to make their own chapter better and focus on how to recruit better, they choose to do this. oh well.

hmmm... i wonder why no one wants to join their sorority...

Uncalled for and immature.

[tinydancer16]

I've been trying to stay out of this thread for what I'm sure are obvious reasons. However it is somewhat common, or at least easily accessible knowledge that I go to Towson so I'd like to go on record saying that the above "sock puppet" statement was not mine (I don't know if there's any way to prove that for sure but I'd like to think that people will take my word for it). I have my own views on the situation, some angles of which have yet to be discussed but I don't want to start anything here and I do not want to do anything that will reflect negatively on my sorority or my school so feel free to PM me. Thanks.

PS - HAPPY KAPPA DELTA FOUNDERS DAY!
*Love in AOT sisters!*

[violetpretty]

Originally Posted by tinydancer16

I've been trying to stay out of this thread for what I'm sure are obvious reasons. However it is somewhat common, or at least easily accessible knowledge that I go to Towson so I'd like to go on record saying that the above "sock puppet" statement was not mine (I don't know if there's any way to prove that for sure but I'd like to think that people will take my word for it). I have my own views on the situation, some angles of which have yet to be discussed but I don't want to start anything here and I do not want to do anything that will reflect negatively on my sorority or my school so feel free to PM me. Thanks.

PS - HAPPY KAPPA DELTA FOUNDERS DAY!
*Love in AOT sisters!*

I pretty much assumed it was not you or AXiDgirl10 because the poster makes reference to the angry chapter "taking pictures of one and finding the other four on facebook". That would suggest to me that the sockpuppet would not be an AGD, AXiD or KD. If the poster were AGD (definitely not), AXiD or KD, I don't think she would make reference to "the five" that were caught, which suggests to me that she is from one of those 5.

[violetpretty]

Originally Posted by ihatesquirrels

a sorority on this campus who had an unsuccessful rush and is jealous of all the other sororities because they are essentially the worst chapter. they targeted one chapter in particular and their advisor took pictures of them drinking in the parking garage, in the union, and on the field. this caused the tu administration to further look into the situation, and they found more pictures on facebook from four of the other chapters.

instead of focusing their energy trying to make their own chapter better and focus on how to recruit better, they choose to do this. oh well.

hmmm... i wonder why no one wants to join their sorority...

Instead of focusing your energy trying to make your chapter better, you choose to write a post that exposes you as immature and stupid. Oh well.

At least you had the decency to use a sock puppet username but you were too dumb/rude to mask which chapter you were talking about. You might as well have named them.

[Kevin]

Someone reported ihatesquirrel's post. Ihatesquirrels either needs to name a source or stop posting rumors. If that sort of thing continues, this thread will be locked.

For what it's worth, I think everyone here has done a pretty good job calling BS where it ought to be called.

Thanks.

[ΑΓΔSquirrelGirl]

Originally Posted by ihatesquirrels

a sorority on this campus who had an unsuccessful rush and is jealous of all the other sororities because they are essentially the worst chapter. they targeted one chapter in particular and their advisor took pictures of them drinking in the parking garage, in the union, and on the field. this caused the tu administration to further look into the situation, and they found more pictures on facebook from four of the other chapters.

instead of focusing their energy trying to make their own chapter better and focus on how to recruit better, they choose to do this. oh well.

hmmm... i wonder why no one wants to join their sorority...

If this immature attitude is representative of YOUR chapter, I wouldn't hold it in high regard at all.

It's time to learn about personal responsibility. If my chapter sisters do something WRONG during recruitment and another sorority turns my chapter in, you'd better believe it's my own sisters that I will be angry at for ruining things for me, not whoever caught them doing it. It's their responsibility to make smart choices, and even though everyone messes up sometimes, BLATANTLY stupid stuff doesn't get much sympathy for me, whether it's myself that did it or my friends. That's just part of trying to grow up and act like an adult.

I have to point this out as well. If one chapter turns another in, doesn't that tell you something? Which chapter wasn't participating in the rule breaking...

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by ΑΓΔSquirrelGirl

I have to point this out as well. If one chapter turns another in, doesn't that tell you something? Which chapter wasn't participating in the rule breaking...

Don't be so sure! I have it on good authority that EVERY chapter had Rho Chi members drunk on bid day. I agree that recruitment is a dry event. The girls have learned their lessons...I hope. I think that you are overly harsh considering you experienced a well run system that enforces its rules. Towson is not such a campus. I hope that none of this happens again, but I have to tell you that it sounds pretty ingrained as a "tradition" and to keep the problems at bay, they'll need a much stronger panhellenic advisor. As for being mad at a sister who ruined everything for the rest of the group, I know the AOII perpetrator personally. She is an upstanding, serious girl who has very high grades in a very difficult major. She is the last person you'd expect to be involved in such an event. She doesn't make any excuses and will tell anyone who asks that it was a serious lapse in judgement. Now...can we let this discussion die already!?

[ΑΓΔSquirrelGirl]

Originally Posted by AOII Angel

Don't be so sure! I have it on good authority that EVERY chapter had Rho Chi members drunk on bid day. I agree that recruitment is a dry event. The girls have learned their lessons...I hope. I think that you are overly harsh considering you experienced a well run system that enforces its rules. Towson is not such a campus. I hope that none of this happens again, but I have to tell you that it sounds pretty ingrained as a "tradition" and to keep the problems at bay, they'll need a much stronger panhellenic advisor. As for being mad at a sister who ruined everything for the rest of the group, I know the AOII perpetrator personally. She is an upstanding, serious girl who has very high grades in a very difficult major. She is the last person you'd expect to be involved in such an event. She doesn't make any excuses and will tell anyone who asks that it was a serious lapse in judgement. Now...can we let this discussion die already!?

I don't doubt all of the recruitment counselors participated, but some chapters apparently had more than that going on. So I do think it's likely that the one turning them in wasn't the one to be adding a little something to the recruitment counselor's misdeeds.

I don't think I'm being harsh at all. Weak system or not, reading the recruitment rules is something all recruitment counselors should do. They are RECRUITMENT COUNSELORS. They should know the rules. This includes a ban on alcohol. And if they choose to break the rules, then that has nothing to do with having a weak system...that's just bad judgment. Just because you don't get caught doesn't mean it isn't wrong. Most of us probably speed, or drank underage at least once, or maybe cheated on a quiz in high school. But if we got caught that doesn't mean we don't deserve to be punished.

They should be mad at the sister. At least she has the moral fortitude to realize that and take responsibility for her actions. That means she's probably a smart girl and won't do something like that again. Some people don't have her ability to learn from their mistakes because they won't accept responsibility like she did.

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by ΑΓΔSquirrelGirl

I don't doubt all of the recruitment counselors participated, but some chapters apparently had more than that going on. So I do think it's likely that the one turning them in wasn't the one to be adding a little something to the recruitment counselor's misdeeds.

I don't think I'm being harsh at all. Weak system or not, reading the recruitment rules is something all recruitment counselors should do. They are RECRUITMENT COUNSELORS. They should know the rules. This includes a ban on alcohol. And if they choose to break the rules, then that has nothing to do with having a weak system...that's just bad judgment. Just because you don't get caught doesn't mean it isn't wrong. Most of us probably speed, or drank underage at least once, or maybe cheated on a quiz in high school. But if we got caught that doesn't mean we don't deserve to be punished.

They should be mad at the sister. At least she has the moral fortitude to realize that and take responsibility for her actions. That means she's probably a smart girl and won't do something like that again. Some people don't have her ability to learn from their mistakes because they won't accept responsibility like she did.

I don't disagree with any of this...in a perfect world. Recruitment counselors at Towson apparently didn't know the rules. Last time I checked, most college students aren't that responsible without a good example showing them the right way. Many of these chapters have no alumnae interaction and do whatever feels right to them whether or not it abides by panhellenic rules. Yes, some chapters did have more involvement with drinking than others (one chapter actually), but the vast majority were behaving themselves as needed. I would love to say that these Rho Chis were terrible girls who just wanted to flaunt the rules, but it's not the case. No one has ever laid down the law on this campus, so I can't entirely fault the women from continuing behaviour that was overlooked by the administration for years. Unfortunately, these girls get to pay the price when others got away with it. If any of them complain, they know that what they did was wrong and that they brought it upon themselves. However, there were very few women at fault and a whole load of innocent girls, including the NMs. No one is saying that the women involved shouldn't be held responsible. They were. The point is that none of this occurred in a vacuum. And like elephantwalks story, many of the women who were involved but didn't get in trouble got elected to panhellenic executive board positions in December. Hmmm....I wonder if they'll continue to turn a blind eye to the problem?