Media dropped the ball on this one

KSig RC · #1 10-05-2007, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by PM_Mama00

Since 2001, they've busted plenty of sleeper cells or whatever they're called. There are known terrorists at UMD who are members of the Muslim Student Association. And they've found a lot of suspicious happenings that deal with money. That's not a profiling... it's true and fact and if I had the time to look up all the stories online I would.

Cite?

PiKA2001 · #2 10-05-2007, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by PM_Mama00

It happens A LOT in this area, especially when it has something to do with universities. Take a look at the rape/murder that happened at Eastern Michigan. Why didn't the campus know this was going on? The news actually uncovered it and it was the first time for many of the students to hear it. Campus was trying to cover up. There have apparently also been rapes on my alma mater's campus, but they don't report them because they don't want to create a fear. I was pretty upset when I didn't hear about that one.
I feel like the Universities like to think that bad stuff can't happen there, kind of like DisneyWorld.I remember there were a few people mugged ON CAMPUS AT GUNPOINT a couple of years ago at Wayne by a group of transvestites (Seriously). Never covered, even though a two nights later the same group robbed a Dunkin Doughnuts, which got huge coverage.

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Originally Posted by SydneyK

I'm certainly not in the know when it comes to the media in your area, but perhaps it was not covered for fear of accusations of (unjustified) racial profiling, and not because it was a "cover up". Just because an area has a high percentage of Middle Easterners doesn't mean it therefore has a high percentage of terrorists.

That's it. This incident took place right before Sep 11, The Mayor of Dearborn didn't want people rushing to conclusions about the intent of the guy being terrorist related.

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Originally Posted by DeltAlum

I can understand a university trying to hush something up, but this is the kind of stuff that media jump all over.

I can't imagine Channel 7 (WXYZ-TV), any of the other stations or The Free Press knowing about this and not reporting it.

There's just no sense to that.

I know there's not, thats kind of why I posted this. Here was a student running around with an AK-47, all paramilitary, planning to do God knows what. I just don't think it's right for them to brush this one under the rug, thats all.

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Originally Posted by KSig RC

Cite?

Yes, it would be nice to see what would come up. I only know of one al-qaida related cell, 8-12 people that were busted here in Detroit ( I think) in '02. Now for the shady dealings part, you may find more. Hezbollah is kind of a big deal in Detroit.

Drolefille · #3 10-05-2007, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by PiKA2001

That's it. This incident took place right before Sep 11, The Mayor of Dearborn didn't want people rushing to conclusions about the intent of the guy being terrorist related.

I know there's not, thats kind of why I posted this. Here was a student running around with an AK-47, all paramilitary, planning to do God knows what. I just don't think it's right for them to brush this one under the rug, thats all.

Yes, it would be nice to see what would come up. I only know of one al-qaida related cell, 8-12 people that were busted here in Detroit ( I think) in '02. Now for the shady dealings part, you may find more. Hezbollah is kind of a big deal in Detroit.

You're assuming the mayor knew and the campus didn't keep it quiet. (Again, despite the fact the news stations had the story the same time as your "it was a conspiracy!" sites.)

Universities DO try to keep this stuff quiet all the time. Now as for the media or the city? Yeah right. If it had shown up on the police blotter, it would have been in the paper ASAP. If the University police handled it, it may not have been on that blotter.

AGDee · #4 10-05-2007, 12:12 PM

The Free Press has run at least 3 articles about this incident.

http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/a...05/1007/NEWS05

http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/a...709220319/1001

http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/a...EWS02/70921018

PiKA2001 · #5 10-05-2007, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by AGDee

The Free Press has run at least 3 articles about this incident.

http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/a...05/1007/NEWS05

http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/a...709220319/1001

http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/a...EWS02/70921018

I know that these articles were published, but why was this story floating around on the internet and blogs for well over a week before freep makes mention? Thanks for missing the point.

ETA: Did you read the comments on the first and third links? Apparently I'm not the only one who thinks this way, and I swear I didn't write any of those.

PiKA2001 · #6 10-05-2007, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Drolefille

You're assuming the mayor knew and the campus didn't keep it quiet. (Again, despite the fact the news stations had the story the same time as your "it was a conspiracy!" sites.)

Universities DO try to keep this stuff quiet all the time. Now as for the media or the city? Yeah right. If it had shown up on the police blotter, it would have been in the paper ASAP. If the University police handled it, it may not have been on that blotter.

I'm not exactly sure what your trying to say here, but the "conspiracy" site I linked to posted the story on the 13th, which got the story from some Lansing TV news station. The earliest article I've seen from the Detroit news was posted a week after that, the 19th. And as for the mayor knowing, well he did know. The article mentioned that the mayor had asked that all questions involving the case be sent directly to his office rather than to the local police.

Drolefille · #7 10-05-2007, 01:34 PM

So, it wasn't covered up, the Detroit paper didn't pick it up very quickly. Since the other news sites had the information out it was public by that time. Who knows why the Detroit paper made the call it did, but assuming it was related to September 11th is like 5 steps too far down the logic train.

PiKA2001 · #8 10-05-2007, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Drolefille

So, it wasn't covered up, the Detroit paper didn't pick it up very quickly. Since the other news sites had the information out it was public by that time. Who knows why the Detroit paper made the call it did, but assuming it was related to September 11th is like 5 steps too far down the logic train.

"O’Reilly said although the man had recently visited Lebanon, he was cautious to indicate there was a larger terrorism issue brewing so close to the Sept. 11 anniversary.
“I really wanted not to let it become more of a bigger issue to be played out,” O’Reilly said. “The real story will come out when he is bound over.”"

It kind of sounds like the mayor really didn't want this story out because of the Sep 11 anniversary. Do you disagree? What do you make from that statement?

Drolefille · #9 10-05-2007, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by PiKA2001

"O’Reilly said although the man had recently visited Lebanon, he was cautious to indicate there was a larger terrorism issue brewing so close to the Sept. 11 anniversary.
“I really wanted not to let it become more of a bigger issue to be played out,” O’Reilly said. “The real story will come out when he is bound over.”"

It kind of sounds like the mayor really didn't want this story out because of the Sep 11 anniversary. Do you disagree? What do you make from that statement?

I make that he wasn't willing to speculate on whether it was a large scale terrorism plan since he a) didn't know and b) it would scare people unnecessarily since he was speculating. He didn't yell "TERRORIST" to the world. That's different than keeping it a secret.

Also, the reporter said 9/11, not the mayor. There's no indication that 9/11 was truly the mayor's motivation.