Protest at Columbia over Iranian President

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by GeekyPenguin

If it's on a Friday at 5 p.m. presumably they could have gone to work all day...maybe even somewhere other than their daddy's law firm.

Working for my "daddy's law firm," I'll have FAR more effect on the state of the world than any of those folks ever will.

-- but we all like to feel like we contribute to society I suppose.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by Kevin

Working for my "daddy's law firm," I'll have FAR more effect on the state of the world than any of those folks ever will.

-- but we all like to feel like we contribute to society I suppose.

and that is what scares me...people who dont have a finger on the pulse of society but find ways to get put into power,,,,

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

and that is what scares me...people who dont have a finger on the pulse of society but find ways to get put into power,,,,

What exactly are you trying to say? What has come out of the Columbia protests or Jena which will result in any societal changes?

Nothing.

[Rudey]

Ignoring all the foolish posts in this thread, my favorite remark today by the president of Iran was in regards to treatment of gays, and him basically calling Americans gay. Pretty funny IMO:

Pressed by Dean Coatsworth on the original question about the rights of gay men and lesbians in Iran, Mr. Ahmadinejad said: “In Iran, we don’t have homosexuals like in your country. We don’t have that in our country.”

The audience booed and hissed loudly. Some laughed, uncomfortably.

“In Iran, we do not have this phenomenon,” Mr. Ahmadinejad continued, undeterred. “I do not know who has told you that we have it.

-Rudey

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by Kevin

What exactly are you trying to say? What has come out of the Columbia protests or Jena which will result in any societal changes?

Nothing.

dude...why are your jaws still flapping...you indicated that you don't care...we all get it.

[AOII_LB93]

Is the pissing contest done yet, or are you guys still dribbling on each others shoes?

Back on the topic of Ahmadinejad...

Rudey,
I thought by far that was the funniest comment he made. Though I've heard it echoed from others I know in the region. A woman I was in my grad program with (who was from Jordan) and a gentleman from Morocco were both of the same mindset. It was kind of odd to hear an educated adult say, "There are no gay people in my country. It just doesn't happen there."

It was an odd comment, but I would presume that over "there", homosexuals are probably trying to hide it since it's "less acceptable" than in western culture...not that all kinds of people in this country accept it, I think we might just be a little more aware of it.

[kddani]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

and that is what scares me...people who dont have a finger on the pulse of society but find ways to get put into power,,,,

I don't think Kevin is going to be able to wield all that much power from a family law firm in Oklahoma.

Back on topic somewhat, I wish I had taken advantage more of my college experience to see speakers, controversial and not. I am glad that I did not spend any of my college time being a crazy protester at everything that reeked even slightly of controversy.

[Munchkin03]

Originally Posted by Kevin

Working for my "daddy's law firm," I'll have FAR more effect on the state of the world than any of those folks ever will.

I know you think that all of the protestors are unemployed liberals--but come on, Kevin. Some of the people there really are the type who didn't want to see the 60s go, but the majority are well-educated and affluent college students. Columbia costs something like 45K a year to attend, and only about half of the roughly seven thousand undergrads qualify for any assistance. Do the math.

A lot of those Columbia students may not fit your idea of what a successful person is (hell, during my time there they annoyed me), but after college, a good chunk of these kids will actually go to some of the best law schools (as opposed to a TTTT like yourself) and go on to prestigious clerkships or top law firms, where they will indeed wield far, far more power than you ever will in Oklahoma.

Just so you know, and you'll stop talking out of your ass...

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by Munchkin03

I know you think that all of the protestors are unemployed liberals--but come on, Kevin. Some of the people there really are the type who didn't want to see the 60s go, but the majority are well-educated and affluent college students. Columbia costs something like 45K a year to attend, and only about half of the roughly seven thousand undergrads qualify for any assistance. Do the math.

A lot of those Columbia students may not fit your idea of what a successful person is (hell, during my time there they annoyed me), but after college, a good chunk of these kids will actually go to some of the best law schools (as opposed to a TTTT like yourself) and go on to prestigious clerkships or top law firms, where they will indeed wield far, far more power than you ever will in Oklahoma.

Just so you know, and you'll stop talking out of your ass...

Most of those Columbia grads would probably trade places with me. I could have transferred to a T-2 after my first year (was #5 in my section), decided not to. I turned down law review as well.

Family law brings in the bucks as divorce/custody cases are very common. It's definitely not the only thing we do, however. Big law is highly overrated.

I'll have 99% of those Columbia grads beat in terms of both influence and salary. Sure it's Oklahoma, but it's a great place to live. I guess you can look down your nose at flyover states, but I'm pretty happy here.

[FSUZeta]

did anyone else have a hard time following the speech?

i don't know if it was a case of many things truly being lost in the translation, or just rambling thoughts. i had a similar experience understanding(or not) and following the speech of a muslim cleric who had been invited to speak at my church several years ago.

the main thing i took away from his speech(the iranian president) was that no matter what he was saying, it always circled back to him-he seems to be the center of his universe; he is an academic, he is interested in further research concerning the Holocaust, he has been insulted.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by FSUZeta

did anyone else have a hard time following the speech?

i don't know if it was a case of many things truly being lost in the translation, or just rambling thoughts. i had a similar experience understanding(or not) and following the speech of a muslim cleric who had been invited to speak at my church several years ago.

the main thing i took away from his speech(the iranian president) was that no matter what he was saying, it always circled back to him-he seems to be the center of his universe; he is an academic, he is interested in further research concerning the Holocaust, he has been insulted.

I don't see how any person of even moderate intelligence can deny the holocaust happened.

But then again, he thinks there are no gays in his country of 63 million.

I think it was good of Columbia to invite him to speak. People like Mahmoud Ahmadinejad need to be exposed for what they are.

It was shocking to me that people who attended actually applauded him. Aside from those crazies, however, I think most of us benefited by seeing what we're up against in the middle east. I bona fide psychopath.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by Kevin

I don't see how any person of even moderate intelligence can deny the holocaust happened.

too easy......I will be nice today

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

too easy......I will be nice today

You don't think the holocaust happened?

Yes or no.

[Sugar08]

Originally Posted by FSUZeta

did anyone else have a hard time following the speech?

i don't know if it was a case of many things truly being lost in the translation, or just rambling thoughts. i had a similar experience understanding(or not) and following the speech of a muslim cleric who had been invited to speak at my church several years ago.

the main thing i took away from his speech(the iranian president) was that no matter what he was saying, it always circled back to him-he seems to be the center of his universe; he is an academic, he is interested in further research concerning the Holocaust, he has been insulted.

Good observation. From what I hear, he's somewhat egotistical (go figure ) ... so it makes sense.

I really enjoyed the opportunity to hear him in his own words (sorta). Far too often we get a watered-down version of what's being said, or simply get told that the man is a maniac or "evil." I think he was pretty interesting. (Also, pretty bold to come to the U.S. where he's been completely demonized.)

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by Sugar08

Good observation. From what I hear, he's somewhat egotistical (go figure ) ... so it makes sense.

I really enjoyed the opportunity to hear him in his own words (sorta). Far too often we get a watered-down version of what's being said, or simply get told that the man is a maniac or "evil." I think he was pretty interesting. (Also, pretty bold to come to the U.S. where he's been completely demonized.)

I think you're right. I think as far as he's concerned, it is all about him, including coming to the US. He can show all the true believers back home how he came into the heart of the Great Satan and stood his ground.

I swear, when I was listening to him, I was reminded of a much scarier version of somebody like Rush Limbaugh. Not that I think Limbaugh is a crazy anti-American or supports terrorism or anything like that -- I want to be clear on that -- but there was that sense of "I'm right, nobody can convince me otherwise, and anyone who doesn't agree with me is evil, stupid or deluded." The true believers eat that stuff up.