circle the fat!

[bluemay414]

Tell someone? Come one! First of all there is the proof. The so called "popular" groups are the worst and they have power. There is intimidation used and who wants to be the one to 'rat them out'. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that there are rules broken all the time, but everyone turns a blind eye to it. I'm just saying it is wrong and I'm disgusted that it happens and especially allowed among these so called 'popular' groups. I have found that the 'popular' groups (in HS and College) are filled with some of the meanest people. The other members are so terrified of the others that they go along with things so they won't be turned on themselves. And if anyone out there says this is hogwash, then fine, believe what you want. All I can say is, I know what I know. Don't believe me if you don't want to. But this forum is about Hazing and I just thought some people might want a heads up before getting themselves involved in something that they will not feel comfortable with. And be prepared to do A LOT of drinking! If you don't like to drink, this might be a huge problem for you in becoming a pledge. A LOT of Sororities and esp. Fraturnities will be making you drink a lot of alchohol. For real!

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by bluemay414

Tell someone? Come one! First of all there is the proof. The so called "popular" groups are the worst and they have power. There is intimidation used and who wants to be the one to 'rat them out'. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that there are rules broken all the time, but everyone turns a blind eye to it. I'm just saying it is wrong and I'm disgusted that it happens and especially allowed among these so called 'popular' groups. I have found that the 'popular' groups (in HS and College) are filled with some of the meanest people. The other members are so terrified of the others that they go along with things so they won't be turned on themselves. And if anyone out there says this is hogwash, then fine, believe what you want. All I can say is, I know what I know. Don't believe me if you don't want to. But this forum is about Hazing and I just thought some people might want a heads up before getting themselves involved in something that they will not feel comfortable with. And be prepared to do A LOT of drinking! If you don't like to drink, this might be a huge problem for you in becoming a pledge. A LOT of Sororities and esp. Fraturnities will be making you drink a lot of alchohol. For real!

I ask my questions again: Are you in a sorority? Was your boyfriend one of those boyfriends who didn't want you to join a sorority?

Because right now, you're sounding like someone who does a lot of generalizing, stereotyping and relying on what you heard somewhere.

And p.s. -- if you're relying on what your boyfriend or your friends told you, then no, you don't know what really happened. You know what you they told you happened. There is a difference.

[TrojanWoman]

Originally Posted by bluemay414

And be prepared to do A LOT of drinking! If you don't like to drink, this might be a huge problem for you in becoming a pledge. A LOT of Sororities and esp. Fraturnities will be making you drink a lot of alchohol. For real!

For real? How do you know? I only know the specifics about my ONE sorority that I joined, not about the 8 others that were on the row with me. And I know FOR REAL that I wasn't forced to do A LOT of drinking and had plenty of pledge and active sisters who didn't drink, period. And I certainly didn't join a fraternity so all I know is hearsay which we have already decided is not something that can be reported as fact.

[bluemay414]

Originally Posted by TrojanWoman

For real? How do you know? I only know the specifics about my ONE sorority that I joined, not about the 8 others that were on the row with me. And I know FOR REAL that I wasn't forced to do A LOT of drinking and had plenty of pledge and active sisters who didn't drink, period. And I certainly didn't join a fraternity so all I know is hearsay which we have already decided is not something that can be reported as fact.

If you live in a dorm with hundreds of girls, see them, talk to them, talk to the guys they hooked up, boyfriends, are friends with them on my space or facebook and can see pictures of them drinking, shot gunning, doing shots, attending kegger or gin bucket parties, if you can read the captions attached to most of these pictures, well then my friend, you can pretty much figure it out! Duh!

[AlphaFrog]

Originally Posted by bluemay414

If you live in a dorm with hundreds of girls, see them, talk to them, talk to the guys they hooked up, boyfriends, are friends with them on my space or facebook and can see pictures of them drinking, shot gunning, doing shots, attending kegger or gin bucket parties, if you can read the captions attached to most of these pictures, well then my friend, you can pretty much figure it out! Duh!

That's probably true. But it's also not spesific to girls in a sorority. Many college students drink. Active sorority members are college students, therefore many active sorority members drink.

[sarasmile]

Basically we have a poster who has some sort of grudge against "popular" people to the point where she would believe just about anything negative that could ever be said about them.

Sorry you didn't get to sit at the cool kids table back in high school, but get over it. That sort of popularity doesn't mean much once you become a real adult anyhow.

And, just out of curiosity, is this hypothetical sorority a local or a national group? Highly unlikely you'd see that sort of thing in a national organization b/c they'd be busted quickly. Locals operate under their own rules. (Not saying that any locals would do that either, of course...just that they'd be more likely to get away with it for at least a little while if it happened.)

P.S. What's the over/under on her boyfriend having a girl on the side in a sorority, and wanting to distance bluewhatever as much from sorority life as possible so she doesn't find out? "Hmmn...if I tell her awful things about sorority life, she'll never talk to any of them..."

[whittleschmegg]

Originally Posted by bluemay414

Tell someone? Come one! First of all there is the proof. The so called "popular" groups are the worst and they have power. There is intimidation used and who wants to be the one to 'rat them out'. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that there are rules broken all the time, but everyone turns a blind eye to it. I'm just saying it is wrong and I'm disgusted that it happens and especially allowed among these so called 'popular' groups. I have found that the 'popular' groups (in HS and College) are filled with some of the meanest people. The other members are so terrified of the others that they go along with things so they won't be turned on themselves. And if anyone out there says this is hogwash, then fine, believe what you want. All I can say is, I know what I know. Don't believe me if you don't want to. But this forum is about Hazing and I just thought some people might want a heads up before getting themselves involved in something that they will not feel comfortable with. And be prepared to do A LOT of drinking! If you don't like to drink, this might be a huge problem for you in becoming a pledge. A LOT of Sororities and esp. Fraturnities will be making you drink a lot of alchohol. For real!

You are sitting here stating you "know" this is being done and not doing anything about it. You and your boyfriend are just as bad as these so called sororities and there implied hazing antics. Grow up and act like a young adult in college and do something about it. Stop caring about what people think of you and act like you care about yourself, how do you feel about knowing this is going on and not doing a damn thing to prevent it. If you aren't going to do something about except sound off in a chat room then shame on you for aiding these organizations if in fact your allegations are true.

One more thing: If you are going to state you KNOW then don't contradict yourself by admitting you are hearing this second hand from "drunk" college freshman whom I am sure in their state of intoxication are reliable

Originally Posted by bluemay414

If you live in a dorm with hundreds of girls, see them, talk to them, talk to the guys they hooked up, boyfriends, are friends with them on my space or facebook and can see pictures of them drinking, shot gunning, doing shots, attending kegger or gin bucket parties, if you can read the captions attached to most of these pictures, well then my friend, you can pretty much figure it out! Duh!

[SydneyK]

Originally Posted by bluemay414

A LOT of Sororities and esp. Fraturnities will be making you drink a lot of alchohol. For real!

Originally Posted by bluemay414

If you live in a dorm with hundreds of girls, see them, talk to them, talk to the guys they hooked up, boyfriends, are friends with them on my space or facebook and can see pictures of them drinking, shot gunning, doing shots, attending kegger or gin bucket parties, if you can read the captions attached to most of these pictures, well then my friend, you can pretty much figure it out! Duh!

One thing has nothing to do with the other. There's a BIG difference between noticing that college students drink and claiming that Greek orgs make their members drink.

[xoheatherxo]

when i was in college and an active member and a pledge i drank. did my sisters make me? definitely not. did they drink too? some of them yes some of them no. the ones that didnt still hung out with the ones that did though and were never pressured to drink. thats what i know about my sorority. i dont know anything about the fraternities or other sororities on campus because im not a member. anything told to me was what i was told but i wasnt there to see it for myself so its just hearsay to me, even if it was from a member directly.

[TrojanWoman]

Originally Posted by SydneyK

One thing has nothing to do with the other. There's a BIG difference between noticing that college students drink and claiming that Greek orgs make their members drink.

Exactly. Not saying that parties didn't happen and that college age greeks and non-greeks alike don't drink too much sometimes. Just saying that my sorority did not require me to drink nor did they think negatively of the sisters who did not drink.

That does not mean that I don't have my fair share of pictures in my scrapbook that I will never show my children!

[AlexMack]

OMG GIRLS IN DORMS ARE DRINKING! CALL THE PO-PO QUICKLY! SOME OF THEM MIGHT BE GREEK!

This thread has now become so retarded it's hilarious.

[justabeachbrat]

Originally Posted by AlexMack

OMG GIRLS IN DORMS ARE DRINKING! CALL THE PO-PO QUICKLY! SOME OF THEM MIGHT BE GREEK!

This thread has now become so retarded it's hilarious.

LOL here. I was bummed because my Bulldogs got creamed by the Ducks, but this inane thread got me laughing so hard that my cat, trying to sit on the laptop as I type, fled.
Woman in jeopardy movies, on Lifetime, that's what the ex boyfriend called them. And yes, the post is out of Dying to Belong.
What's next? Or does that depend on what movie on steamy college life is on.
Women drinking, and maybe Greeks in the crowd. shhhhh.
I remember when my sister's dorm housemother, it was a stuffy private college, called late at night to report my sister and some of her sisters had come in drunk singing "like drunken sailors" and were putting together a strawberry shortcake on the floor and eating it. I guess fat circles weren't of concern.
My mother, who had three kids in college at the time, let the housemother sound off, and then, in her very ladlylike way, said that of all the possible crimes we could be doing she wasn't going to get in a snit about shortcake and singing, although no one in the family can carry a tune. Yes, my mom said, she wasn't thrilled about my sister drinking, but knew she had walked to and from a party with her friends, not driven.
And her suggestion to the housemother: Go to bed. A good idea for the thread poster, and also, turn off the TV.

This beats reading chapters for my COMM class.

[Benzgirl]

Originally Posted by justabeachbrat

LOL here. I was bummed because my Bulldogs got creamed by the Ducks, but this inane thread got me laughing so hard that my cat, trying to sit on the laptop as I type, fled.
Woman in jeopardy movies, on Lifetime, that's what the ex boyfriend called them. And yes, the post is out of Dying to Belong.
What's next? Or does that depend on what movie on steamy college life is on.
Women drinking, and maybe Greeks in the crowd. shhhhh.
I remember when my sister's dorm housemother, it was a stuffy private college, called late at night to report my sister and some of her sisters had come in drunk singing "like drunken sailors" and were putting together a strawberry shortcake on the floor and eating it. I guess fat circles weren't of concern.
My mother, who had three kids in college at the time, let the housemother sound off, and then, in her very ladlylike way, said that of all the possible crimes we could be doing she wasn't going to get in a snit about shortcake and singing, although no one in the family can carry a tune. Yes, my mom said, she wasn't thrilled about my sister drinking, but knew she had walked to and from a party with her friends, not driven.
And her suggestion to the housemother: Go to bed. A good idea for the thread poster, and also, turn off the TV.

This beats reading chapters for my COMM class.

This gets better in the other threads. Don't scare your cat again...
http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/se...archid=1382267

[cuteASAbug]

Originally Posted by Benzgirl

This gets better in the other threads. Don't scare your cat again...
http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/se...archid=1382267

it says "sorry no matches"

[jon1856]

Originally Posted by bluemay414

Tell someone? Come one! First of all there is the proof. The so called "popular" groups are the worst and they have power. There is intimidation used and who wants to be the one to 'rat them out'. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that there are rules broken all the time, but everyone turns a blind eye to it. I'm just saying it is wrong and I'm disgusted that it happens and especially allowed among these so called 'popular' groups. I have found that the 'popular' groups (in HS and College) are filled with some of the meanest people. The other members are so terrified of the others that they go along with things so they won't be turned on themselves. And if anyone out there says this is hogwash, then fine, believe what you want. All I can say is, I know what I know. Don't believe me if you don't want to. But this forum is about Hazing and I just thought some people might want a heads up before getting themselves involved in something that they will not feel comfortable with. And be prepared to do A LOT of drinking! If you don't like to drink, this might be a huge problem for you in becoming a pledge. A LOT of Sororities and esp. Fraternities will be making you drink a lot of alcohol. For real!

For some reason, I stopped reading my morning paper in order to read most of your postings.
In several threads and topics.
My hat, if I was wearing one, is off to you. You are a great troll.
IMHO, you are repeating many stories that at some point in time may have accrued at some place or another. Once, perhaps even twice.
And in this day and age, there would be proof.
And in this day and age, reports would be made.
And as my chapters photographer, I have over 6,000 slides and negatives in my possession. Do they show drinking (and some other drugs)-yes. As would a GDI room or dorm at that time would.
Given todays technologies, anything you are posting about would be "out there".
Does hazing go on-YES!
This is from Cornell-NOTE where the word "false" is:
http://www.hazing.cornell.edu/incide...criptions.html
http://www.hazing.cornell.edu/incide...ngBlotter.html

Took me less time to find that site than to write most of my post.
So, here is your challenge:
Find sites that back-up your claims. ALL of them.

And BTB, the term I was taught to be correct: Fraternity, NOT "frat".