2007 UGA Recruitment

UGAalum94 · #1 08-18-2007, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by cluelessUGAmom

I think that what you said is what I am trying to express. But if a girl suicides then she cannot be part of COB -- right??? But really maybe one of the chapters that will be offering COB may have cut her earlier and it could be a better fit for the pnm then #2 or #3 which is why she suicided....so why wouldnt' they allow her to COB? It would still have to be mutual acceptance?

If she doesn't list them on the pref cards (ISP, suiciding, not maximizing), as I understand it, she can still COB.

She just can't be a quota addition at the time of bid matching.

cluelessUGAmom · #2 08-18-2007, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by AlphaGamUGAAlum

If she doesn't list them on the pref cards (ISP, suiciding, not maximizing), as I understand it, she can still COB.

She just can't be a quota addition at the time of bid matching.

Ok. But why would someone who ISP not be able to be a QA? What if they were the "next" on the list?

Xylochick216 · #3 08-18-2007, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by cluelessUGAmom

Ok. But why would someone who ISP not be able to be a QA? What if they were the "next" on the list?

Because she didn't maximize her options.

UGAalum94 · #4 08-18-2007, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by cluelessUGAmom

Ok. But why would someone who ISP not be able to be a QA? What if they were the "next" on the list?

If she only lists one, she has to be on the regular bid matching list. Remember if the group really wanted her to be in their new member class, they could place her number one on their list. If she's on the second or third list, they want her, but she's extra if they get their first choices.

She CAN'T be a quota addition if she ISP because by the very definition of who gets them, she wouldn't have maximized her options. The big risk of ISPing is that you limit yourself to only getting one group through regular bid matching. It should only be used by girls who know they want that one choice or nothing.

Again, I understand that from your perpective, it seems like a system that matched everyone to her first choice is desirable, but that's not how the system works. NPC policies are designed to keep the groups relatively the same size.

If all a girl had to do was get to prefs, and then she was guaranteed a bid to her first choice even if she only listed them, it would be a big problem in terms of some groups tripling in size while others got few new members. It would throw the idea of quota out the window.

flower3 · #5 08-18-2007, 12:07 PM

Anyone have any information on the actual number of girls who registered for Rush at UGA?

melongirl · #6 08-18-2007, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by flower3

Anyone have any information on the actual number of girls who registered for Rush at UGA?

First day, before it began, was 1296

Mama Dawg · #7 08-18-2007, 01:56 PM

If it has not already been posted, here is the link to the Green Book that someone asked to see...

http://www.uga.edu/panhellenic/Libra...ter%202007.pdf

UGAalum94 · #8 08-18-2007, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Mama Dawg

If it has not already been posted, here is the link to the Green Book that someone asked to see...

http://www.uga.edu/panhellenic/Libra...ter%202007.pdf

MamaDawg, you've got the Pointer linked, which is a really helpful reference, but I think they wanted the National Panhellenic Conference handbook that's called the green book.

jwright25 · #9 08-18-2007, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by AlphaGamUGAAlum

If she doesn't list them on the pref cards (ISP, suiciding, not maximizing), as I understand it, she can still COB.

She just can't be a quota addition at the time of bid matching.

That is correct. As I learned earlier in this thread, some campuses have additional rules about snap bidding (UGA doesn't allow dropouts to be snapped), but NPC doesn't make a distinction about that.

As long as a woman does not match to a chapter she lists on her pref card, she is eligible for COB. If she accepts a bid to a chapter via COB, she will sign a bid with the Greek office. That is the same as signing a pref card, and if she drops out prior to initiation, she must wait a year to join another sorority - same as if she matched during formal recruitment.

SoCalGirl · #10 08-18-2007, 03:25 PM

I think QA could be a huge problem where PNMs attending Pref overlap the same 4-5 chapters. Those chapters would continue to pick extra girls year after year and other chapters would be shut out.

UGAalum94 · #11 08-18-2007, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by SoCalGirl

I think QA could be a huge problem where PNMs attending Pref overlap the same 4-5 chapters. Those chapters would continue to pick extra girls year after year and other chapters would be shut out.

I can see how this could be an issue, but as long as they were prioritized by chapter size, it seems unlikely to happen.

If you go with the PNMs order of choices only, then you are right, though.

SoCalGirl · #12 08-18-2007, 03:49 PM

My concern would be the same group of chapters would all ready be the big ones on campus. QA would just place a PNM first with the smallest of the biggest chapters.

UGAalum94 · #13 08-18-2007, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by SoCalGirl

My concern would be the same group of chapters would all ready be the big ones on campus. QA would just place a PNM first with the smallest of the biggest chapters.

It might happen occasionally, but I think that it's fairly uncommon for a girl at UGA to pref three of the very largest groups, but I may be wrong. (Here's a link to the grade reports that have membership numbers on them: http://www.uga.edu/panhellenic/academics.html. Although there is a lot of variation in numbers, most of the biggest groups don't seem to get the QAs, or many of them.

But even so, is it better than she not be placed?

I think we all like to think that she would take a COB to a smaller chapter, but this year, I think only two groups will be eligible to COB in the fall, and unless they raise total or a lot of girls graduate mid-year, there may not be that many additional groups in the spring.

FloridaTish · #14 08-18-2007, 09:18 PM

Does anyone know which groups are doing COB in the Fall? If any? I would love to hear that girls who didn't find a home might have a chance to take another look at the sororities doing COB...

SoCalGirl · #15 08-18-2007, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by AlphaGamUGAAlum

It might happen occasionally, but I think that it's fairly uncommon for a girl at UGA to pref three of the very largest groups, but I may be wrong. (Here's a link to the grade reports that have membership numbers on them: http://www.uga.edu/panhellenic/academics.html. Although there is a lot of variation in numbers, most of the biggest groups don't seem to get the QAs, or many of them.

But even so, is it better than she not be placed?

I think we all like to think that she would take a COB to a smaller chapter, but this year, I think only two groups will be eligible to COB in the fall, and unless they raise total or a lot of girls graduate mid-year, there may not be that many additional groups in the spring.

I am thinking of schools beyond UGA. I'm sure there are many schools where it could happen.