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Old 08-14-2007, 10:03 PM
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The blue vests have been around a long time and they are kind of a tradition, I guess. I think it might be trying to send a message that these are people who are there to help you and support you, not glam it up or make you feel intimidated by their hotness.

Look at those PNMs and look up the UGA admissions standards these days. Know that almost all of them have extensive activities and good conversational skills. They will all seem eager to be at your party. Now, ask yourself how you would decide who to keep and who to release.

(Academically UGA wasn't as selective when I went there, and I really don't remember everyone going through rush being as universally pretty, so I'm not trying to retro-actively flatter myself, I promise.)
The competition really is fierce. There is an article posted on UGA site today that says this is the..."most academically talented freshman class in its history"
Plus, something like over 90% of the freshmen are on the HOPE - Georgia's state scholarship program and that is with the current changes that were just made to the program that made it even harder to attain.
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Old 08-14-2007, 10:18 PM
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The competition really is fierce. There is an article posted on UGA site today that says this is the..."most academically talented freshman class in its history"
Plus, something like over 90% of the freshmen are on the HOPE - Georgia's state scholarship program and that is with the current changes that were just made to the program that made it even harder to attain.
I'm surprised it's not 100% on HOPE since the admissions standards are so much higher than a 3.0 these days.

It really had just gotten to be a totally different place academically. When I went, a B average and breaking 1000 on the old SAT would have been plenty good enough to get in, but today, forget it.
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Old 08-14-2007, 10:28 PM
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If 90% of the students are on the academic Hope Scholarships and then some are on Div1 athletic scholarships, who is paying tuition? Is it all out-of-staters or legacies who didn't make the Hope cut?
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Old 08-14-2007, 10:31 PM
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If 90% of the students are on the academic Hope Scholarships and then some are on Div1 athletic scholarships, who is paying tuition? Is it all out-of-staters or legacies who didn't make the Hope cut?
Well, the taxpayers of the state of Georgia (or maybe more accurately, the lottery players) are paying tuition for the HOPE students, and with no one really paying attention since they don't pay out of pocket, tuition per student is up.

But yes, out of staters and the students who don't keep the 3.0 once they are there pay tuition themselves.
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Old 08-14-2007, 10:31 PM
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I know one family that is paying tuition -- OUCH!
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Old 08-14-2007, 10:35 PM
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Are there stats on how many HOPE recipients don't keep a 3.O? From what I understand (and please correct me if I'm wrong), the Hope is for all 3.5+ GPAs from an instate GA hs (public or private) for ANY GA public university?
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Old 08-14-2007, 10:40 PM
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Are there stats on how many HOPE recipients don't keep a 3.O? From what I understand (and please correct me if I'm wrong), the Hope is for all 3.5+ GPAs from an instate GA hs (public or private) for ANY GA public university?
Nope, it's for all 3.0 GPA from public high schools, I think.

You can use it at any public college, and there's a partial private school amount you can get too, but it's not going to go too far.

And I haven't seen data of how many retain for a while. The rate varies widely by which high school system the kids come out of.
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Old 08-14-2007, 11:16 PM
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For an internship while in college I did some research about programs like the George HOPE scholarships. Somewhere around 50% of freshmen lose their scholarships after their freshmen, but not just for not maintaining grades - not meeting the credit and/or paperwork requirements has been an issue.(*Note: my research was mainly in around 2005, so most of my knowledge is a couple of years old.)

If you google Georgia HOPE results or something to that effect, you'll see that the 50% figure hasn't changed much lately, although they are / have recently raised the standards to receive it.
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Old 08-14-2007, 11:23 PM
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Nope, it's for all 3.0 GPA from public high schools, I think.

You can use it at any public college, and there's a partial private school amount you can get too, but it's not going to go too far.

And I haven't seen data of how many retain for a while. The rate varies widely by which high school system the kids come out of.
Not just public. Any GA HS including Home school. And it is $3000 I think if you attend a private college -- or maybe it's only $1000 - I forget. But they changed HOW the GPA is calculated to make it more "even" across the high schools.
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Old 08-14-2007, 11:18 PM
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Are there stats on how many HOPE recipients don't keep a 3.O? From what I understand (and please correct me if I'm wrong), the Hope is for all 3.5+ GPAs from an instate GA hs (public or private) for ANY GA public university?
They changed the requirements this year. There was a good article in the AJC about a week ago explaining the changes. But basically honors classes are no longer weighted. And, with the change it should help weed out students who really were not "B" students but rather "C" students which resulted in their admission but not being able to sustain the grades needed to keep HOPE. They are expecting the retention figures to be higher this year from this class based on the new change. There were many Georgia kids who had expected to get HOPE and only found out a week or so ago that they didn't get it.

As for what HOPE pays -- it does pay the tuition and fees and some towards books, but the fees amount had been capped awhile back so it does NOT cover UGA's current full tuition/fees and basically nothing for books. As for the class not to be at 100% I, too assume because of the out-of state attendees. Seems to be many there from Virginia/DC area and Texas.

Also, we learned that at Auburn if you are from out of state and received enough internal academic scholarship money that equaled the in-state tuition then the out-of-state tuition is waived. I understand that they do this to compete with the HOPE and get some of the otherwise UGA or GA Tech kids. It also helped a lot of kids who got deferred from UGA or not admitted -- they were offered a great opportunity and price from Auburn.
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Old 08-15-2007, 12:11 AM
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Also, we learned that at Auburn if you are from out of state and received enough internal academic scholarship money that equaled the in-state tuition then the out-of-state tuition is waived. I understand that they do this to compete with the HOPE and get some of the otherwise UGA or GA Tech kids. It also helped a lot of kids who got deferred from UGA or not admitted -- they were offered a great opportunity and price from Auburn.
Hmmm...Are you saying that if you are a Georgia high school grad and eligible for HOPE that Auburn will honor your eligibility by waiving out-of-state tuition? I hadn't heard of that. I know there are tons of kids from metro Atlanta at Auburn. I have an eighth grader who likes Auburn.
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