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08-14-2007, 05:06 PM
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Tuesday's Update
First, let me say it's good to read the concerns that parents have for their daughter(s) during this week of Rush at UGA. Your comments are both encouraging and informative.
My daughter called today after getting her schedule; she was invited to 6 houses -- a combination of her top 6 and of the bottom 7-12 list. She was surprised at a couple of the cuts, but she was happy to be going back to those on her list too. I'm sure tonight's call will be interesting.
With the heat in the 99-100 degree range, it is not only stressful but also extremely tiresome. Not a great combination.
Like UGADad and others, we have been encouraging her to get lots of rest and drink lots of water.
UGA RUSH is Extremely competitive! I would recommend the local Panhel council to be brutely honest with parents and prospective recruits about to expect for Rush, from A-Z! Not with the intent to discourage but to insure understanding. No surprises or regrets.
I think these young ladies are extremely bright and intelligent; given the good, bad and ugly of what Rush is and can be, might allow for some of these girls to decide in advance whether the process is worth it to them or not.
The emotional stress from being rejected, as my daughter's roommate is experiencing is overwhelming. Having her self confidence blown out the door before school starts doesn't make a Momma or Dad feel too good either.
Oh... in response to one sorority being on probation. That is true. I believe they are limited to the number of recruits that they can bring in and are prohibited from having socials (the details may not be completely accurate with respect to what is allowed or not allowed). There are probably more restrictions, but I question whether or not this should be information that the recruits have.
Good luck to all the girls!
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08-14-2007, 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by UGAMOM01
First, let me say it's good to read the concerns that parents have for their daughter(s) during this week of Rush at UGA. Your comments are both encouraging and informative.
My daughter called today after getting her schedule; she was invited to 6 houses -- a combination of her top 6 and of the bottom 7-12 list. She was surprised at a couple of the cuts, but she was happy to be going back to those on her list too. I'm sure tonight's call will be interesting.
With the heat in the 99-100 degree range, it is not only stressful but also extremely tiresome. Not a great combination.
Like UGADad and others, we have been encouraging her to get lots of rest and drink lots of water.
UGA RUSH is Extremely competitive! I would recommend the local Panhel council to be brutely honest with parents and prospective recruits about to expect for Rush, from A-Z! Not with the intent to discourage but to insure understanding. No surprises or regrets.
I think these young ladies are extremely bright and intelligent; given the good, bad and ugly of what Rush is and can be, might allow for some of these girls to decide in advance whether the process is worth it to them or not.
The emotional stress from being rejected, as my daughter's roommate is experiencing is overwhelming. Having her self confidence blown out the door before school starts doesn't make a Momma or Dad feel too good either.
Oh... in response to one sorority being on probation. That is true. I believe they are limited to the number of recruits that they can bring in and are prohibited from having socials (the details may not be completely accurate with respect to what is allowed or not allowed). There are probably more restrictions, but I question whether or not this should be information that the recruits have.
Good luck to all the girls!
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I would certainly vote for this to be known to the recruits! I haven't heard anything about it but again it is information that they should be allowed to factor into their decision -- at least by the prefs round!
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08-14-2007, 05:45 PM
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I would certainly vote for this to be known to the recruits! I haven't heard anything about it but again it is information that they should be allowed to factor into their decision -- at least by the prefs round!
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I agree. UGADaughter's mom told her that if the answer is important to her, she should call the Greek Office and ask. I would hope they would tell her the truth. If those are the sanctions -- a more limited pledge class and social restrictions -- it seems like very relevant information for a prospective member to have. UGADaughter talked to her mom after doing her rankings today. She said it was very difficult for her but that she knows she has been very lucky so far. Its a little ironic that, with all she is hearing about the cuts, she said she is worried about hurting the feelings of some of the actives with whom she feels she has developed a bond.
I think we'll ALL be glad when this is over.
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08-14-2007, 05:54 PM
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I agree. UGADaughter's mom told her that if the answer is important to her, she should call the Greek Office and ask. I would hope they would tell her the truth. If those are the sanctions -- a more limited pledge class and social restrictions -- it seems like very relevant information for a prospective member to have. UGADaughter talked to her mom after doing her rankings today. She said it was very difficult for her but that she knows she has been very lucky so far. Its a little ironic that, with all she is hearing about the cuts, she said she is worried about hurting the feelings of some of the actives with whom she feels she has developed a bond.
I think we'll ALL be glad when this is over.
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UGADad..... AMEN!
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08-14-2007, 05:13 PM
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There are probably more restrictions, but I question whether or not this should be information that the recruits have.
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I would personally be pissed if I got recruited into a group on Social Pro without knowing it...at least those rushing should be informed and be able to make the decision as to whether that particular house is worth it.
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08-14-2007, 05:16 PM
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I would personally be pissed if I got recruited into a group on Social Pro without knowing it...at least those rushing should be informed and be able to make the decision as to whether that particular house is worth it.
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I'm with you! My daughter was told earlier this summer about this particular sorority and their situation. I will say that she really liked the girls and might would have continued putting them on her list but didn't due to the circumstances.
I also think that might be why their dues were less than the others.
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08-14-2007, 05:21 PM
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Okay. Who is on social probation and how does anyone know it?
While it might be true and fair to disclose it to the girls, it also might be rumor and tent talk, getting girls to discount a group that isn't really facing this issue.
What's the story? What do you know?
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08-14-2007, 05:25 PM
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I searched on the Red & Black website and didn't find any current stories about a sorority on any sort of probation.
If this exists, and it isn't something coming down from the university or the Panhellenic, it's coming from the sorority's national HQ and as such is private sorority business that is not Panhellenic's place to disseminate to the public.
Ask the sorority themselves what the deal is.
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08-14-2007, 05:30 PM
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I suspect the PNMs have that opportunity, but probably won't do it.
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08-14-2007, 05:31 PM
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sororities may be limited or prohibited by the amount or the ability to hold social events for a certain period of time, but they can never be punished by denying them the chance to recruit or the number of new members they are allowed to take(meaning that they are allowed the same number of new members as the other sororities).
i hate tent talk!
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08-14-2007, 05:34 PM
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sororities may be limited or prohibited by the amount or the ability to hold social events for a certain period of time, but they can never be punished by denying them the chance to recruit or the number of new members they are allowed to take(meaning that they are allowed the same number of new members as the other sororities).
i hate tent talk!
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The national HQ can dictate that they can take less NMs than quota but a Panhellenic can't. This was done in a fairly famous hazing case.
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08-14-2007, 05:37 PM
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i hate tent talk!
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It's like playing telephone. The PNMs are bombarded with tent talk, they tell mom and dad, mom and dad report to us.
Much of tent talk is ridiculous and absurd to begin with. By the time it gets back to GC it's at a whole 'nother level.
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08-14-2007, 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by AlphaGamUGAAlum
Okay. Who is on social probation and how does anyone know it?
While it might be true and fair to disclose it to the girls, it also might be rumor and tent talk, getting girls to discount a group that isn't really facing this issue.
What's the story? What do you know?
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Just a guess but the tent talk may be related to this story...
http://media.www.redandblack.com/med...-2821579.shtml
If you search the archives of the Red & Black back to early April, you will find more editorials and articles related to the incident.
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08-14-2007, 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by OTW
It's like playing telephone. The PNMs are bombarded with tent talk, they tell mom and dad, mom and dad report to us.
Much of tent talk is ridiculous and absurd to begin with. By the time it gets back to GC it's at a whole 'nother level. 
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Thank you for finding this link. I too hate gossip or as earlier referred to as "tent talk" but in this case, I'm afraid that there is truth to the situation. However, the error of information may very well be in the disciplinary action given to the chapter.
IF this is TRUE, it is my opinion that the girls should be informed; it may or may not matter but it shouldn't be withheld.
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08-14-2007, 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by AlphaGamUGAAlum
Okay. Who is on social probation and how does anyone know it?
While it might be true and fair to disclose it to the girls, it also might be rumor and tent talk, getting girls to discount a group that isn't really facing this issue.
What's the story? What do you know?
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I hope the actives will disclose the truth to the girls during pref night. We had seen the story, but we are well aware that newspaper stories, particularly campus papers, aren't above exageration and sensationalism. From what we're hearing this is a great group of girls and I suspect the rumors are far worse than reality. Hopefully the actives will decide that it is in their best interests to come clean and address the situation -- otherwise the pnms will believe the worst.
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