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08-11-2007, 10:32 AM
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thank you So Cal Girl. sorry Aztecs you get downgraded to honorable mention.  according to my source one is reorganizing and another may not have fully participated? that may be totally incorrect but kindly pardon my error.
see disclaimer above... my only source is jabbering with some of the students I know that attend those schools!
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08-11-2007, 10:48 AM
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Can someone explain what quota is in relationship to a fraternity or sorority?
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08-11-2007, 07:58 PM
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Can someone explain what quota is in relationship to a fraternity or sorority?
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It is the number of new members that each chapter is allowed to take which is based on the number who are going through recruitment. Each campus decides how they are going to set quota. It used to be common to take the number of PNMs who signed up for recruitment and divide by the number of chapters. That didn't end up being very fair though because some of those women would drop out. Quota is generally set further down the process now and sometimes is based on how many signed bid cards. So, if there were a 200 PNMs who signed bid cards and 10 sororities, quota would be 10. Each chapter could take 20 PNMs.
However, there is another number, called Total, which complicates things. Total is a maximum chapter size, essentially, that is set by the College Panhellenic. If Total is 100 and a chapter reaches or exceeds that number when they take Quota, then they are done recruiting! However, if they are below Total, they can do Continuous Open Recruitment (COR) until they reach Total. Chapters can exceed Total by taking Quota, but then they can't take any more women.
The system is designed to try to keep the sororities about the same size with the philosophy that if all the chapters are strong, then the Panhellenic system is strong. If two chapters had 200 members, 5 had around 100 and the other 3 had 50 or so, things wouldn't be equitable. Despite these heroic attempts to keep chapters around the same size, some chapters still struggle with numbers though.
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08-11-2007, 08:23 PM
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Okla State all made Quota
MegLan just reported that all of the sororities at Oklahoma State --11 -- just made quota (46). Bid Day was today (Saturday, Aug 11). Don't know who had quota additions, etc. so don't know the final numbers,.
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08-15-2007, 11:26 AM
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MegLan just reported that all of the sororities at Oklahoma State --11 -- just made quota (46). Bid Day was today (Saturday, Aug 11). Don't know who had quota additions, etc. so don't know the final numbers,.
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I haven't seen final number either, and that would be very surprising (but great!) if it is true.
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08-12-2007, 12:31 AM
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It is the number of new members that each chapter is allowed to take which is based on the number who are going through recruitment. Each campus decides how they are going to set quota. It used to be common to take the number of PNMs who signed up for recruitment and divide by the number of chapters. That didn't end up being very fair though because some of those women would drop out. Quota is generally set further down the process now and sometimes is based on how many signed bid cards. So, if there were a 200 PNMs who signed bid cards and 10 sororities, quota would be 10. Each chapter could take 20 PNMs.
However, there is another number, called Total, which complicates things. Total is a maximum chapter size, essentially, that is set by the College Panhellenic. If Total is 100 and a chapter reaches or exceeds that number when they take Quota, then they are done recruiting! However, if they are below Total, they can do Continuous Open Recruitment (COR) until they reach Total. Chapters can exceed Total by taking Quota, but then they can't take any more women.
The system is designed to try to keep the sororities about the same size with the philosophy that if all the chapters are strong, then the Panhellenic system is strong. If two chapters had 200 members, 5 had around 100 and the other 3 had 50 or so, things wouldn't be equitable. Despite these heroic attempts to keep chapters around the same size, some chapters still struggle with numbers though.
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So...chapters can only exceed quota if they are under total...but, they can exceed total by pledging to quota?
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08-12-2007, 12:47 AM
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So...chapters can only exceed quota if they are under total...but, they can exceed total by pledging to quota?
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Yes!
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08-12-2007, 08:40 AM
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So...chapters can only exceed quota if they are under total...but, they can exceed total by pledging to quota?
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The simple answer is yes. However.. now there are quota additions too. On some campuses, if a young woman has maximized her options (accepted all possible invites and included all chapters possible on her preference card) and appears on someone's bid list but is going to be unmatched because the groups fill quota before they get to her, they allow some quota additions. So, you will see, as recruitment results come out, some will report that they got quota +2 or quota +3. The woman who is a quota addition will not know that she is one. The new member class as a whole will realize that some of them are quota additions, but nobody will know who except those involved in bid matching.
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08-14-2007, 05:29 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AGDee
It is the number of new members that each chapter is allowed to take which is based on the number who are going through recruitment. Each campus decides how they are going to set quota. It used to be common to take the number of PNMs who signed up for recruitment and divide by the number of chapters. That didn't end up being very fair though because some of those women would drop out. Quota is generally set further down the process now and sometimes is based on how many signed bid cards. So, if there were a 200 PNMs who signed bid cards and 10 sororities, quota would be 10. Each chapter could take 20 PNMs.
However, there is another number, called Total, which complicates things. Total is a maximum chapter size, essentially, that is set by the College Panhellenic. If Total is 100 and a chapter reaches or exceeds that number when they take Quota, then they are done recruiting! However, if they are below Total, they can do Continuous Open Recruitment (COR) until they reach Total. Chapters can exceed Total by taking Quota, but then they can't take any more women.
The system is designed to try to keep the sororities about the same size with the philosophy that if all the chapters are strong, then the Panhellenic system is strong. If two chapters had 200 members, 5 had around 100 and the other 3 had 50 or so, things wouldn't be equitable. Despite these heroic attempts to keep chapters around the same size, some chapters still struggle with numbers though.
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Is the information about quotas and size of each chapter available anywhere online?
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08-14-2007, 05:39 PM
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Is the information about quotas and size of each chapter available anywhere online?
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If the campus has a Greek rating system with ratings posted online, it sometimes lists the number of members in each chapter.
Since quotas change from year to year (and since the fraternities don't use them) those aren't included in that sort of site, although if Greek life is a huge presence at the school there might be listings in the school paper as to who made quota.
Plus, you can always look on GC.
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08-14-2007, 09:56 PM
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Is the information about quotas and size of each chapter available anywhere online?
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It depends on the school. Some of them post grade information in a report that includes how many members are in each chapter. Sometimes you can get an idea if they have composites posted on the chapter websites (composites, in case you're not familiar with them, are like a class picture from elementary school.. an individual portrait of each member arranged into one large composite), although that doesn't clue you in as to how many were seniors the year before and have graduated. Hard firm numbers are rarely posted online. Some schools, Auburn I know for sure, posts the whole list of new members and which chapter they joined. I get an annual membership report because I still volunteer for Alpha Gam so I know Total and last year's quota for the schools with Alpha Gam chapters. UGA's Total is 170 and Quota was 55 last year, per that report for the last academic year. Quota changes from year to year (Total can too, technically) since it's based on the number of PNMs at a given point during recruitment.
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