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07-27-2007, 01:36 PM
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You're right, Berkeley isn't a liberal school. One conservative law professor indicates this.
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I've personally never understood the utility of law school, let alone lawyers, but generally you all tend to be great at reading details. I'm shocked you aren't.
To be repeated I never said Berkeley wasn't a liberal school. Not only does that have no relevancy to what we were discussing, but I also don't think you can even elucidate what makes a "liberal school".
I made a point regarding the administration which is composed of professors. You did follow that detail correct? I mean it's really simple. We were discussing professors.
I pointed out a professor in the university that is extremely conservative and has been one of the architects of the Bush Administration's conservative legislations as well as a prominent member of the Federalist society (along with Antonin Scalia), which "hopes to transform the American legal system by developing and promoting conservative positions and influencing who will become judges, top government officials, and decision-makers."
I hope your reading skills improve.
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07-27-2007, 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Rudey
I've personally never understood the utility of law school, let alone lawyers, but generally you all tend to be great at reading details. I'm shocked you aren't.
To be repeated I never said Berkeley wasn't a liberal school. Not only does that have no relevancy to what we were discussing, but I also don't think you can even elucidate what makes a "liberal school".
I made a point regarding the administration which is composed of professors. You did follow that detail correct? I mean it's really simple. We were discussing professors.
I pointed out a professor in the university that is extremely conservative and has been one of the architects of the Bush Administration's conservative legislations as well as a prominent member of the Federalist society (along with Antonin Scalia), which "hopes to transform the American legal system by developing and promoting conservative positions and influencing who will become judges, top government officials, and decision-makers."
I hope your reading skills improve.
-Rudey
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My reading skills are fine, thanks. Additionally, I highly doubt that Boalt professors have any impact on undergraduate hires, as I originally questioned. Hope that helps.
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07-27-2007, 01:46 PM
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My reading skills are fine, thanks. Additionally, I highly doubt that Boalt professors have any impact on undergraduate hires, as I originally questioned. Hope that helps.
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Your reading skills are not fine. I just detailed exactly why they were lacking.
Additionally, your post "Countdown until he's offered position at UC-Berk?" has no mention of undergraduate hires. You lose that argument as well.
-Rudey
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07-27-2007, 01:57 PM
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Haha, trust me, I manage.
If I had referenced the possibility of him being hired by the law school, which is likely the only situation in which Yoo would impact such a decision, I would have mentioned the law school, or Boalt. Good try, however.
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07-27-2007, 02:06 PM
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Haha, trust me, I manage.
If I had referenced the possibility of him being hired by the law school, which is likely the only situation in which Yoo would impact such a decision, I would have mentioned the law school, or Boalt. Good try, however.
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Perhaps you were just referencing the art school. I should have known that too right?
Perhaps Ward Churchill even taught grad classes (I don't personally know) and perhaps you were only referencing that one department right?
Again, we were discussing professors at a university. Clearly you are wrong. Wouldn't it just be easier to admit you were wrong and leave it at that?
-Rudey
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07-27-2007, 02:17 PM
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No, I'm not wrong.
I made a comment (which was sarcastic, but I think you realize this) about the fired professor being hired at Berkeley. Given that he is not a law professor, your reference to a conservative law professor had nothing to do with Cal's hiring him. I'm not knowledgeable about the finer points of university operation, but I would imagine he would be hired by a specific department. Given that said department is not the law school, I don't think Yoo would have any impact on on the potential hire.
Thus, your original response was irrelevant, similar to my assumption that your comment was about the political leanings of the institution.
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07-27-2007, 02:24 PM
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No, I'm not wrong.
I made a comment (which was sarcastic, but I think you realize this) about the fired professor being hired at Berkeley. Given that he is not a law professor, your reference to a conservative law professor had nothing to do with Cal's hiring him. I'm not knowledgeable about the finer points of university operation, but I would imagine he would be hired by a specific department. Given that said department is not the law school, I don't think Yoo would have any impact on on the potential hire.
Thus, your original response was irrelevant, similar to my assumption that your comment was about the political leanings of the institution.
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I got the sarcasm, but let me repeat that we were discussing the hire of a professor by a university. You did not remark on undergraduate hires. You did not remark on his specific department (I'm not even sure either of us know what department that is unless we google it).
Judge Judy called and said I won the case.
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07-27-2007, 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Rudey
I pointed out a professor in the university that is extremely conservative and has been one of the architects of the Bush Administration's conservative legislations as well as a prominent member of the Federalist society (along with Antonin Scalia), which "hopes to transform the American legal system by developing and promoting conservative positions and influencing who will become judges, top government officials, and decision-makers."
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No doubt that Woo is a conservative, but the Patriot Art and support of torture that you mentioned early as two thirds of his "conservative" bona fides are as distasteful to many conservatives as they are to anyone else along the spectrum.
True conservatism doesn't equate with fascism anymore than true liberalism equates with totalitarian communism.
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07-27-2007, 04:13 PM
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Maybe if He got a haircut and wasn't a dick it would not have happened?
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