YES!! I have my Harry Potter book **SPOILERS ABOUND!!!***

[ASUADPi]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

Have they said something about Hans Zimmer doing the scores for movies 6 and/or 7? He didn't do scores for any of the first 5 movies.

(But he would do a very good score.)

I don't know why I thought it was him. Didn't John Williams do the first two movies? Either way, whoever the composer is, it's just going to make it gut wrenching


I do definately agree that he would do a very good score

[ASUADPi]

Okay so weird. I just got an email from gc with DST4A00 responding to Lady Pi Phi and I can't find it. Weird.

Either way, Lady Pi Phi had mentioned that the middle names of Harry's boys could be Fred or Sirius, I don't think James middle name was mentioned but the other one was Albus Severus. Harry explained that he was named after to "great" headmasters of Hogwarts. And I got all teary eyed and was like "ahh".

It makes you wonder if in the 19 years the reputation of Sytherin changed from a house that only produced wizards who practiced dark magic to something else?

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by ASUADPi

Okay so weird. I just got an email from gc with DST4A00 responding to Lady Pi Phi and I can't find it. Weird.

Either way, Lady Pi Phi had mentioned that the middle names of Harry's boys could be Fred or Sirius, I don't think James middle name was mentioned but the other one was Albus Severus. Harry explained that he was named after to "great" headmasters of Hogwarts. And I got all teary eyed and was like "ahh".

It makes you wonder if in the 19 years the reputation of Sytherin changed from a house that only produced wizards who practiced dark magic to something else?

Slytherin didn't necessarily produce wizards that practiced ...that's like intentionally producing villains....it's just that some of them were more...........suspect

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

Slytherin didn't necessarily produce wizards that practiced ...that's like intentionally producing villains....it's just that some of them were more...........suspect

you know what...I ran across a slight parallell.....

Voldemort was a genocidal megalomaniac who only wanted purebloods in the world altho he was a 1/2 blood....

can anyone think of another real life leader who wanted the same.......?

[DST4A00]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

you know what...I ran across a slight parallell.....

Voldemort was a genocidal megalomaniac who only wanted purebloods in the world altho he was a 1/2 blood....

can anyone think of another real life leader who wanted the same.......?

I think the comparison to Hitler was abundant. Even the "baby boom" comment earlier was appropriate.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

you know what...I ran across a slight parallell.....

Voldemort was a genocidal megalomaniac who only wanted purebloods in the world altho he was a 1/2 blood....

can anyone think of another real life leader who wanted the same.......?

Did you notice that Grindelwald was defeated in 1945? If bad things happen in the Muggle world when bad things happen in the wizarding world there are some definate parallels. You could almost take it to an extreme in saying that Hitler was no more than a pawn for the dark wizard...

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

Did you notice that Grindelwald was defeated in 1945? If bad things happen in the Muggle world when bad things happen in the wizarding world there are some definate parallels. You could almost take it to an extreme in saying that Hitler was no more than a pawn for the dark wizard...

JKR talked about the Hitler parallel in this 2000 interview.

An excerpt:

Interviewer: Some of the people that you satirize most in this book, the evil people, the Malfoys, they're very classist, they're racist against the Mudbloods. Is it fair to say that these are neo-Conservative or Thatcherite? (JK nods.) Is there a real political axe you're grinding there?

JK: I think in this book [GoF] too, you fully understand… With Voldemort, I didn't want to create this cardboard cutout of a baddie, where you put a black hat on him and you say 'Right, now you shoot at that guy because he's bad.'

Interviewer: Like the Dursleys are more of a cutout bad people?

JK: Yes and no. You will meet Dursleys, in Britain. You will. I've barely exaggerated them. Yeah, Voldemort. In the second book, Chamber of Secrets, in fact he's exactly what I've said before. He takes what he perceives to be a defect in himself, in other words the non-purity of his blood, and he projects it onto others. It's like Hitler and the Arian ideal, to which he did not conform at all, himself. And so Voldemort is doing this also. He takes his own inferiority, and turns it back on other people and attempts to exterminate in them what he hates in himself.

I do think she also said somewhere that conflict in the wizarding world can be reflected in conflict in the Muggle world.

[ASUADPi]

Was the consensus that Neville was the one who "came into their power late in life" because that just seems odd to me? Neville is only 17 years old, I don't necessarily call that "late in life". Plus, it's not like he hasn't been practicing for 6 years, unfortunately Neville just wasn't very good.

I bawled when he was walking to his death with Sirius, him mom & dad. I was like "boo". The only thing I kept thinking, peripherally (spelling issues on that word), was "yeah, I get to see Gary Oldman and his parents in the movie". LOL.

The whole time though I was thinking, OMG this movie is going to be hell to write (script wise). There was so much. You could cut out some of the traveling time of Harry & Co. You cut and make the wedding "boom" like the Quidditich world cup. It's going to be a lot of condensing and thinking "what can we take out". But in reality I think it's going to be more "how can we make this a shorter scene than it is in the book". I can't think of one "major" plot point that could just be cut out of the book completely. Yes, there are little plot points that don't have to be mentioned (i.e. Tonks pregnant), but I don't know. I'm glad I'm not the screen writer, they have a hell of a task in front of them.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by JenMarie

Did anyone get ages from the children? (Lily was underage, James was older, Albus is 11... didn't catch the other 2 children.)

Albus Potter and Rose Weasley are the points of reference -- they are both leaving for their first year at Hogwarts, so they are each 11. (So is Scorpius Malfoy.) Lily Potter remarks that it will be 2 years before she can go to Hogwarts, so she is 9. James is older than Albus, though it doesn't say by how much. Ginny remarks, though, that "We wrote to James three times a week last year," which could imply that he is 12 and last year was his first year. It doesn't say how much younger than Rose Hugo is, but he seems to be around Lily's age.

Originally Posted by ISUKappa

But he did. Instead of alerting the other Death Eaters as Harry & Co. were about to escape Malfoy's, he killed himself with the silver hand. Not exactly the most direct way of helping, but still...

Originally Posted by Drolefille

Well he didn't MEAN to kill himself. His delay cost him his life, but he delayed due to the blood debt he owed Harry.

Right -- Wormtail's silver hand was cursed. Back in GoF, when Voldemort Wormtail was begging, Voldemort said: "Worthless and traitorous as you are, you helped me . . . and Lord Voldemort rewards his helpers . . . . "

But we all know that he never rewards without a catch. After he made the hand and Wormtail thanked him, Voldemort said, "May your loyalty never waver again, Wormtail." Wormtail answered, "No, my Lord . . . never, my Lord . . . ."

But, in the cellar at the Malfoy's, Wormtail showed a "tiny, merciful impulse" towards Harry, and in so doing, his loyalty to Voldemort did indeed waver. When that happened, "the silver tool that Voldemort had given his most cowardly servant" turned on Wormtail and strangled him.

Originally Posted by Drolefille

Accio was certainly the spell of choice in this book.

That and Expelliarmus.

Originally Posted by ASUADPi

I don't know why I thought it was him. Didn't John Williams do the first two movies? Either way, whoever the composer is, it's just going to make it gut wrenching

Yes, John Williams did the first two scores, including the major themes, like Hedwig's Theme. I'm not sure who has done the others.

Originally Posted by Lady Pi Phi

I thought she was supposed to tell us why some people became ghosts and others didn't. It might have been explained in Harry's conversation with Grey Lady, but I didn't think it was very clear.

It was explained by Nearly Headless Nick at the end of OoP.


Did anyone think anything of the fact that Ron had a Muggle driver's license? I'm wondering if anything about their adult lives should be read into that.

[JenMarie]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

Albus Potter and Rose Weasley are the points of reference -- they are both leaving for their first year at Hogwarts, so they are each 11. (So is Scorpius Malfoy.) Lily Potter remarks that it will be 2 years before she can go to Hogwarts, so she is 9. James is older than Albus, though it doesn't say by how much. Ginny remarks, though, that "We wrote to James three times a week last year," which could imply that he is 12 and last year was his first year. It doesn't say how much younger than Rose Hugo is, but he seems to be around Lily's age...
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Yes, John Williams did the first two scores, including the major themes, like Hedwig's Theme. I'm not sure who has done the others.

I don't know why, (perhaps lack of sleep) but I think I interpreted the line about how the 5 Potters walked toward 9 3/4 as five kids fathered by Harry. Oops. But now this makes sense.

And John Williams/LSO did the scores for all films but GoF... which seems to be my least favorite soundtrack. I don't remember who did that one.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by JenMarie

And John Williams/LSO did the scores for all films but GoF... which seems to be my least favorite soundtrack. I don't remember who did that one.

Accordig to IMDb, Jeremy Soule did the soundtrack for Chamber of Secrets, Patrick Doyle did the soundtrack for Goblet of Fire and Nicholas Hooper did the soundtrack for Order of the Phoenix. Of course, all of the movies have used musical themes that John Williams wrote for the first movie.

Originally Posted by Drolefille

MysticCat: Some 6th years would be of age as well, Luna stayed and no one put up a fuss, and Ron was of age during his 6th year. I get the impression Harry was actually young for his class, not the norm.

True. I forgot that some of the 6th years are older than others.

[JenMarie]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

Accordig to IMDb, Jeremy Soule did the soundtrack for Chamber of Secrets, Patrick Doyle did the soundtrack for Goblet of Fire and Nicholas Hooper did the soundtrack for Order of the Phoenix. Of course, all of the movies have used musical themes that John Williams wrote for the first movie.

Weird... I could have swore I read on Mugglenet that JW did the OOtP. But... that's Mugglenet.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by JenMarie

Weird... I could have swore I read on Mugglenet that JW did the OOtP. But... that's Mugglenet.

Yeah, well I thought he did Chamber of Secrets 'til I went and looked it up.

He does get credit in all of the movies since they use the themes he wrote for the first one, like "Music: John Williams; Original Score: Whoever Else."

[ASUADPi]

I found it quite interesting that Narcissa didn't give Harry up. Instead of putting her "faith" in Voldemort she was more worried about her child. Kind of a nice change for the Malfoy's.

Maybe it's just me, but I didn't find the book too predictible, especially the end. I didn't expect DD to tell Snape that Harry had to die and Harry to walk up to Voldemort and "give" himself up.

Remember though, these are technically "children's books", she couldn't have thrown all those twists and turns we adults like because kids wouldn't have been able to either A) handle them or B) understand them (developmentally).