London Police Defuse Car Bombs

DeltAlum · #1 07-01-2007, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by PeppyGPhiB

When I was in London at age 12, an IRA car bomb blew up outside of Harrod's, just blocks away from where we were at the time. I think the adults were more scared than I was, though.

A few days after I visited the BBC Television Centre on business several years ago, a bomb went off outside.

As a quick update, there have been five arrests reported, including the two at the Glasgow Airport, in the three incidents.

Also, no injuries were originally reported in the airport attack, but now they are reporting five minor injuries as well as one of the attackers who was badly burned and is in critical condition.

PiKA2001 · #2 07-01-2007, 12:11 PM

The Brits need to stand up and publicly hang these five, send a message to the rest of the world that such attacks will not be tolerated, but the people of Londonistan have a soft spot for getting bombed and are too busy apologizing to the mullahs preaching jihad on the street corners.

RACooper · #3 07-01-2007, 02:26 PM

Let me guess. You believe that the Brits are soft on terror and don't know how to deal with it right?

It's morons like you that give conservatives the rep for being anti-intellectual or just plain stupid.

Drolefille · #4 07-01-2007, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by RACooper

Let me guess. You believe that the Brits are soft on terror and don't know how to deal with it right?

It's morons like you that give conservatives the rep for being anti-intellectual or just plain stupid.

What he said.

The British are some of the more resilient people in the Western world. It hasn't been that long since WWII and the London Blitz for them. It's only just about a year since the last bombing there. Just becaues they don't use the death penalty and will try these people appropriately doesn't make them soft on terror. (Nor does a diverse population for that matter)

PiKA2001 · #5 07-02-2007, 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Drolefille

What he said.

The British are some of the more resilient people in the Western world. It hasn't been that long since WWII and the London Blitz for them. It's only just about a year since the last bombing there. Just becaues they don't use the death penalty and will try these people appropriately doesn't make them soft on terror. (Nor does a diverse population for that matter)

If you're talking about the subway/bus bombing, it was back in '05 genius

Drolefille · #6 07-02-2007, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by PiKA2001

If you're talking about the subway/bus bombing, it was back in '05 genius

Yeah that's my bad on the date. Still more recent than '01.

AKA_Monet · #7 07-03-2007, 02:17 AM

OMG, dudes were physicians!!!

The krispy kritter worked in the Queen's Hospital as a physician...

Engelwood · #8 07-01-2007, 05:37 PM

Here's a quote from Tony Blair for everybody to digest:

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'The reason we are finding it hard to win this battle is that we're not actually fighting it properly. We're not actually standing up to these people and saying, "It's not just your methods that are wrong, your ideas are absurd. Nobody is oppressing you. Your sense of grievance isn't justified."'

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/politics/story/0,,2115929,00.html

DeltAlum · #9 07-01-2007, 07:14 PM

It isn't real easy to change a fanatic's mind by talking to him/her.

Engelwood · #10 07-06-2007, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DeltAlum

It isn't real easy to change a fanatic's mind by talking to him/her.

Of course. I'm just talking about the general attitude in the west regarding radical Islam. When the new British PM bans the word "muslim" when talking about the current incidents, it's PC gone crazy.
http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/12172/Brown:-Don

UGAalum94 · #11 07-06-2007, 08:14 PM

I'm not sure if it's really PC run amok, which it might be, or if it's a way of trying to marginalize the terrorist networks and supporters from anyone who might be mainstream and Muslim.

There are elements of PC that I think have contributed to the recent problems, and we're going to have to figure out how to handle them in the future: the whole "Flying Imams" flap may provide a good example of what I mean here.

But if you have a rapidly growing Muslim population like all of Western Europe does, you've got to figure out a way to make clear that you're not targeting all Muslims for the actions of a limited few, or if it's not a limited few, you've got to figure out what your long range plan is before you tip your hand.

ETA: which isn't to say that I think we have to pretend that we don't notice that the terrorists are Muslim. But when we're condemning the people responsible, we want to make sure the focus in on condemnation for the terrorism.

RACooper · #12 07-02-2007, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by SECdomination

Agreed. London bombings do seem to occur much more often than anywhere else in the world. I'm not claiming that as fact or anything, just from what I've seen on television over the years. (FOX news, of course. Don't worry, I wouldn't waste my time on those other stations.)

You might want to... you know to actually get a clearer picture of the news.

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Agreed.
Watching their friends being publicly hanged would be a much better deterrent.

Why yes that makes perfect sense... afterall 'martyring' terrorists willing to kill themselves would really teach them

Anyways it definitely didn't work with the Irish republicans since all it did was create martyrs or heroes - heroes still lauded or sung about in pubs today. Killing people ready to die for a cause is self-defeating since they and their supporters accept and expect it really... locking them up is a greater punishment really, and a greater political and intelligence asset than a dead 'martyr'.

DeltAlum · #13 07-02-2007, 01:08 AM

While I don't know this to be fact, my understanding is that at least "life" in prison really means that in the UK, as oppossed to getting 75 years off for good behavior or whatever.

If these guys get convicted, we hopefully won't hear from them again.

PiKA2001 · #14 07-02-2007, 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by RACooper

You might want to... you know to actually get a clearer picture of the news.

Agreed. I especially like the BBC and the people they have on that like to say that Al-Qaida and Osama Bin Laden don't really exist, just decoys that Blair And Bush came up with to invade Iraq for oil (which in america we've seen so much of).

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Originally Posted by RACooper

Why yes that makes perfect sense... afterall 'martyring' terrorists willing to kill themselves would really teach them

What do you suggest we do then? Give them universal health care and free college? Look at it this way, these guys want to die as martrys anyway..It's a win-win scenario, they get their glory and we get their head.

PiKA2001 · #15 07-02-2007, 02:01 AM

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Originally Posted by RACooper

Let me guess. You believe that the Brits are soft on terror and don't know how to deal with it right?

It's morons like you that give conservatives the rep for being anti-intellectual or just plain stupid.

No and No. This was an obvious test for the new PM by jihadists, and I hope he shows a strong hand when dealing with them. It seems (from reading the new reports) that the saving grace the British had from these attempted attacks is the fact that these terrorists couldn't blow up a paper bag.

**Isn't is against the rules to personally attack someone or call names?