Too fat to recruit: or, DePauw, the Sequel

[honeychile]

Originally Posted by 33girl

Or it means that the pool of girls going through rush just...sucked. I know this isn't usually the case in the SEC, but it can definitely happen at small schools. Not that there aren't great girls at those schools that would join a sorority, they just don't care for the phoniness of formal rush or know they're only interested in one group and would prefer to join through COB. But seriously, if you only have like 50 girls show up for rush, it's entirely possible that you would rather not pledge quota than take some of the girls who are rushing.

Omigosh - I know of one poor woman who went through SIX recruitments, never got a bid, but then became President of a colony when she was a senior. We saw her standing outside of a house after Pref one time, and were happy to see that she was going to get a bid, but I guess they opted not to do so, as they were still under quota (holy run-on sentence, Batman!).

ETA: She wasn't the least bit overweight, either!

[kathykd2005]

To say that ALL of the NPC groups are only concerned with Recruitment is a gross generalization that is not necessarily true. That is all that I am saying. I sincerely doubt that all of the national executive councils are foaming at the mouth for more members. I doubt very much that anyone on here knows every one of the NPC's members, and if you do, then more power to you. Again, it's statements like these that make our organizations look so superficial to outsiders.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by kathykd2005

To say that ALL of the NPC groups are only concerned with Recruitment is a gross generalization that is not necessarily true. That is all that I am saying. I sincerely doubt that all of the national executive councils are foaming at the mouth for more members. I doubt very much that anyone on here knows every one of the NPC's members, and if you do, then more power to you. Again, it's statements like these that make our organizations look so superficial to outsiders.

I'm not sure what you're trying to say here. Have some of the groups proposed getting rid of the quota/total system?

I agree that there are some NPC MEMBERS who could care less about numbers being huge - after all, everyone in an NPC sorority is an NPC member.

[kathykd2005]

Originally Posted by 33girl

I'm not sure what you're trying to say here. Have some of the groups proposed getting rid of the quota/total system?

I agree that there are some NPC MEMBERS who could care less about numbers being huge - after all, everyone in an NPC sorority is an NPC member.

Did I say getting rid of quota and total? No. I just said that like NPHC groups, who care more about their sisterhood than about numbers, so, too, do many NPC organizations. No, I did not say they view recruitment in the exact same way. What I'm saying is that recruitment for all NPC groups is not necessarily just superficial. I hope that clarifies a bit more.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by kathykd2005

Did I say getting rid of quota and total? No. I just said that like NPHC groups, who care more about their sisterhood than about numbers, so, too, do many NPC organizations. No, I did not say they view recruitment in the exact same way. What I'm saying is that recruitment for all NPC groups is not necessarily just superficial. I hope that clarifies a bit more.

I don't think it's a question of "caring more." I think that when you bring in a large amount of women at the postgraduate level, as NPHC does, you don't have to be quite as concerned if the numbers of your collegiate chapters are smaller. If AI for NPC groups ever got as popular as NPHC graduate membership is, I'm betting the pressure on collegiate chapters to fulfill total and quota would lessen considerably, if not disappear altogether.

[kathykd2005]

Originally Posted by 33girl

I don't think it's a question of "caring more." I think that when you bring in a large amount of women at the postgraduate level, as NPHC does, you don't have to be quite as concerned if the numbers of your collegiate chapters are smaller. If AI for NPC groups ever got as popular as NPHC graduate membership is, I'm betting the pressure on collegiate chapters to fulfill total and quota would lessen considerably, if not disappear altogether.

Agreed.

[banditone]

Perhaps their nationals should put forth a "rush weight limit" for members to adher to.

[cuteASAbug]

Originally Posted by honeychile

Omigosh - I know of one poor woman who went through SIX recruitments, never got a bid, but then became President of a colony when she was a senior. We saw her standing outside of a house after Pref one time, and were happy to see that she was going to get a bid, but I guess they opted not to do so, as they were still under quota (holy run-on sentence, Batman!).

ETA: She wasn't the least bit overweight, either!

You'd think that after several unsuccesful recruitments you'd get the hint and stop trying.

[AlphaFrog]

Originally Posted by cuteASAbug

You'd think that after several unsuccesful recruitments you'd get the hint and stop trying.

I wonder if she ended up AIing.

[cuteASAbug]

Originally Posted by AlphaFrog

I wonder if she ended up AIing.

No, she joined a colony her senior year. It's in honeychile's original post.