Spirituality and Character in Fraternities...

[Tom Earp]

Phil in answer to your question, most of us as GLOs were Founded with some sort of Religious back ground.

Yes, there is GLO Badge/Pins being sold on EBay!

I am as I am need of money to live on.

I am trying to get to My Fellow Brothers to buy them. I have bought certain Pins for a Historic value for My Chapter. I have gotten some threatening emails and it is a shame.

If they feel so bad, then why not bid on them as I put them on at low prices

Well, I think I will go dine now!

[ΑΓΔSquirrelGirl]

I agree with you about what seems to be to be misuse of letters. But some people are Greek because they love it and some are only to "have fun".

[elwoodpfiggs]

What does GLO stand for? Phil

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by Tom Earp

Phil in answer to your question, most of us as GLOs were Founded with some sort of Religious back ground.

Yes, there is GLO Badge/Pins being sold on EBay!

I am as I am need of money to live on.

I am trying to get to My Fellow Brothers to buy them. I have bought certain Pins for a Historic value for My Chapter. I have gotten some threatening emails and it is a shame.

If they feel so bad, then why not bid on them as I put them on at low prices

Well, I think I will go dine now!

Earp: King of "It's all about me"

Originally Posted by elwoodpfiggs

What does GLO stand for? Phil

Greek Letter Organization

[Senusret I]

Originally Posted by Knoxstudent

Greek Letter Organization, I think. Or is it Greek Lettered Organization?

Either is fine.

[SWTXBelle]

As far as t-shirts go, I recently wrote a column about vulgar language in society today. It's not just GLOs - I'm amazed at what people wear in public.
I wouldn't want to wear anything that would reflect badly on me, my GLO, my college, or Greeks in general. I suspect I am a distinct minority, however.
It's not that I don't appreciate the humor in some of them - I just think they cheapen the image of the org.
JMHO -

[DeltAlum]

Originally Posted by SWTXBelle

As far as t-shirts go, I recently wrote a column about vulgar language in society today. It's not just GLOs - I'm amazed at what people wear in public.
I wouldn't want to wear anything that would reflect badly on me, my GLO, my college, or Greeks in general. I suspect I am a distinct minority, however.
It's not that I don't appreciate the humor in some of them - I just think they cheapen the image of the org.
JMHO -

Thank you. I agree.

They can also cheapen the image of the person wearing them.

[SWTXBelle]

As far as embodying the creeds and ritual of GLOs - I think it is the same for any group. You have some to whom it is important, and who work to incorporate it into their lives. You have some who are only interested in the more social aspects - but one can hope that the more spiritual elements might make an impression. You can plant a seed - and it may not flower for years. Still, it is there. I taught at a Christian school. Many of our students were there simply because their parents made them go to get a good education. You would be amazed how many of them, years later, went into the ministry or became active in their churches, and point to the influence of the school. So it is with GLOs. Sometimes the character and spirituality aspects may not seem to make an impression - but look at how many alumni turn around and commit themselves to the GLO years after college.
I would hope that whatever draws you to the GLO, the larger, lasting elements are what are going to stay with you.

[elwoodpfiggs]

Phil:

And I must note that there are many fine fraternity members who do take their organizations seriously.

These are just my observations. I wonder what some of these org.'s founders would think or say regarding their members actions and motives today.


Please note that I mean no offence to anyone or to any organization.[/QUOTE]

None taken; you were very diplomatic and insightful in what you said.

Good to hear from you, and congratulations on starting your college career. I hope you enjoy it as much as I enjoyed mine.

I am glad to hear that you are looking at fraternities. Shop around, however, and see if you can find what you're looking for: a place where you will fit in and where your beliefs will be not just tolerated but respected.

(By the way, I clicked on the link to your photography. You are really good! Will you study this in college?)

Phil

[frattypalmtree]

the bible is so boring and everybody knows its fake anyway. i saw a thing on the discovery channel about it.

[elwoodpfiggs]

I can't say I agree with you, Fratty; some of the most exciting stories I know are in the Bible!

As for the show on the Discovery Channel...I haven't seen it. I'd like to, though. The folks who made it (the show) may have had some preconceived notions before they started; I wouldn't be surprised if they did not have a few biases/prejudices of their own. I suppose the Discovery Channel is just like all other networks: trying to keep their content compelling to reenforce ratings. Advertising is the name of the game, so you've got to keep people watching!

(This is off topic, but didn't things get out of hand/downright MEAN on the thread about whether fraternities help guys find girlfriends? It got way off topic, and then people got really hateful. I don't there's any reason for that. It's not what I come here looking to find, so I'm just not going back to that thread.)

Phil

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by elwoodpfiggs

I can't say I agree with you, Fratty; some of the most exciting stories I know are in the Bible!

As for the show on the Discovery Channel...I haven't seen it. I'd like to, though. . . .

Phil, surely you didn't take his post seriously. 'Cause it wasn't worth taking seriously.

[Tom Earp]

I guess then, it is in the eye of the poster.

All GLOs were started with a Religion back ground whether Christian or Jewish.

Being reborn again, I am not really sure what that means?

Were those before nothing but sinners?

Do they beleive in a Single God?

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by Tom Earp

All GLOs were started with a Religion back ground whether Christian or Jewish.

No, Tom, they weren't.

The earliest GLOs, starting with Phi Beta Kappa, were started with an Enlightenment, humanist or rationalist background. After all, the very motto of Phi Beta Kappa, "Philosophy, the Guide (Helmsman) of Life," is a challenge to the view that God, Scripture or Religion is the "Guide of Life." The earliest GLOs were cut from a similar Enlightenment/rationalist/Deist cloth. It wasn't until later that GLOs began to take on a more Christian, and later Jewish, focus.

And many GLOs were were specifically founded with a non-sectarian focus, seeking to overcome divisions based on religion.