What has GC taught you?

[AlexMack]

My guess is that said person (whoever they are, I have no idea) may feel inclined to start spreading ritual about online in order to piss off those who hate her here.
That's what I would do at least. But only if I didn't make it into a sorority.

[UGAalum94]

If such a thing could be proven, and I'm more than willing to accept that such a burden could be met in this instance, would it be enough to get a PNM banned from recruitment?

Seriously, it's a pretty big breach of something important to the groups. Why should chapters even have to have welcome her into their homes for first round?

If I were a member of a group at the campus where she rushes or even at any of the campuses in her state whose ritual she had stolen, I might take it upon myself to alert the greek life director at each campus who the person was and what she had done or at least every chapter at the campus.

An explanation of what had occurred, the email address used, a copy of her posts soliciting the information, and the person's name and a note indicating she wouldn't be welcomed into our house: that would do it.

[UGAalum94]

I'm cooling off a little, and I wonder: is the email address something that could be faked or is it a campus email that can be traced to a user?

[AlexMack]

Originally Posted by Alphagamuga

I'm cooling off a little, and I wonder: is the email address something that could be faked or is it a campus email that can be traced to a user?

I'd be inclined to believe that except that there's been more incriminating evidence to implicate said user.

[UGAalum94]

Originally Posted by centaur532

I'd be inclined to believe that except that there's been more incriminating evidence to implicate said user.

So, a person in real life would be convinced that the person accused actually did what she's accused of here?

Maybe I'm being childish taking it so seriously, but I'd hate to think that a group would unknowingly give a bid to person who had such little regard for ritual in general. While I can understand a PNM wanting to know all about MS, going to the lengths that this person has gone would indicate a pretty serious character flaw.

[cuteASAbug]

Originally Posted by Alphagamuga

So, a person in real life would be convinced that the person accused actually did what she's accused of here?

Maybe I'm being childish taking it so seriously, but I'd hate to think that a group would unknowingly give a bid to person who had such little regard for ritual in general. While I can understand a PNM wanting to know all about MS, going to the lengths that this person has gone would indicate a pretty serious character flaw.

My question is- how would they know? 9 pnm's out of 10 would not walk into a recruitment party and go "hey, I want to be an Alpha Gamma Delta because I already have your ritual and I think it's beautiful."

[UGAalum94]

Originally Posted by cuteASAbug

My question is- how would they know? 9 pnm's out of 10 would not walk into a recruitment party and go "hey, I want to be an Alpha Gamma Delta because I already have your ritual and I think it's beautiful."

I have no idea of what they actually saw and whether they retained it, but I get the feeling that the people who brought this up have some proof they could share with the chapters.

Not that they use the procedure for stuff like this, but I can remember once seeing a list of members who had been expelled or people who were forever prohibited from being initiated on one of the national NPHC sites. At the time, I was kind of blown away by the idea of having such a public list of shame.

Do you ever have these flashes of recognition of how NPHC does some stuff better than NPC? I'm having one of those flashes of recognition. Get caught soliciting ritual on the internet with some pretty good proof it was you, get banned from initiation at any of our chapters.

It's just a dream, but it's kind of a nice one.

[ZTAngel]

Originally Posted by cuteASAbug

My question is- how would they know? 9 pnm's out of 10 would not walk into a recruitment party and go "hey, I want to be an Alpha Gamma Delta because I already have your ritual and I think it's beautiful."

If her name is in the email address, it's very easy to figure out. I'm sure the GC alum are more than willing to let their chapter know about this at the school where she's rushing.

[susan314]

Originally Posted by cuteASAbug

My question is- how would they know? 9 pnm's out of 10 would not walk into a recruitment party and go "hey, I want to be an Alpha Gamma Delta because I already have your ritual and I think it's beautiful."

I think that knowing the ritual of the GLO that you pledged prior to initiation would spoil the meaning of the whole ceremony for you - part of the fun of initiation is finally having everything revealed to you.

As far as knowing the rituals for other GLOs...I suppose I'd be lying if I didn't say that I had a mild curiosity about stuff. However, despite that mild curiosity I wouldn't actually try to find anything out b/c its none of my business. I extend the same courtesy to other groups' ritual as I would want extended to my own.

I suppose on some level it disturbs me a little that there are people out there trading rituals, but its one of those things that we just have to let go b/c we'll never be able to stop it. In the long run, our ritual is more than just what's written on paper...its the actual feeling and experience you get from being in the room with your sisters and hearing the words spoken by them, etc. I've seen written copies of our ritual (legitimately, b/c I used to have a role in my chapter's initiation ceremony ), and I can honestly say that reading it on paper pales in comparison to actually being there for a real live ceremony. Knowing some of the secrets doesn't give you the full experience.