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Old 06-09-2007, 10:38 AM
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From what I have read, there were a couple of other factors involved. Isaiah Washington had also gotten into a physical altercation and had been "released" from a previous television show. Sounds like a pattern of behaviour. Also, I think that the cast was very upset that he used the Golden Globes to deny what happened when the whole cast knew what happened.

Shinerbock, what you do in your off-time is your business. If Washington wanted to make comments when he was away from the studio, that's his right. But, if you use derogatory language directed at a co-worker and you are at work? Then it does become the company's problem and issue.

Do Sheffield, Rocker, and Washington have the right to believe what they want to believe and freedom of speech? Absolutely. Then stick up for what you believe in and don't whine about the consequences of saying what you believe.

PS - I do not believe, condone or agree with the statements that Sheffield, Rocker, and Washington say. They do have the right of speech. But, again, accept the consequences for your speech and actions.
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Old 06-09-2007, 11:22 AM
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From what I have read, there were a couple of other factors involved. Isaiah Washington had also gotten into a physical altercation and had been "released" from a previous television show. Sounds like a pattern of behaviour. Also, I think that the cast was very upset that he used the Golden Globes to deny what happened when the whole cast knew what happened.

Shinerbock, what you do in your off-time is your business. If Washington wanted to make comments when he was away from the studio, that's his right. But, if you use derogatory language directed at a co-worker and you are at work? Then it does become the company's problem and issue.

Do Sheffield, Rocker, and Washington have the right to believe what they want to believe and freedom of speech? Absolutely. Then stick up for what you believe in and don't whine about the consequences of saying what you believe.

PS - I do not believe, condone or agree with the statements that Sheffield, Rocker, and Washington say. They do have the right of speech. But, again, accept the consequences for your speech and actions.
I agree, and if I thought the firings of people like Imus, Rocker, Washington, etc...were entirely the natural product of their actions, I'd be completely comfortable with it. However, while I think what you say should be the way things are, I don't think they are in fact that way. Almost everyone around the Imus situation thinks the assertion that he was fired for sponsor pullout is absolutely ridiculous. I'm not as familiar with the Washington situation, and frankly I don't care as much as my post may have indicated. I'm more discouraged by the general culture, and some of the comments even in this thread, indicating that "you can't get away with saying things like that." Are there consequences for actions? Sure, and they generally occur naturally. However, I think you should be able to be a racist, a sexist, biased against gays, whatever, and if it doesn't impact your work, you shouldn't be fired. I'm not really arguing a slippery slope here, but rather that some of the underlying motivations and the responses of people to situations like this are very disturbing.
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