why join? (sure already asked)

[PeppyGPhiB]

Although your post is somewhat insulting, I'll point out one thing to you: on most campuses, greeks have higher GPAs than the non-greeks. Look into it.

[TSteven]

If you have to rationalize joining a fraternity, then doing so might not be in your best interest.

[tld221]

if youre sure the question has been asked, then why werent you sure enough to look for the answer?

maybe you shouldnt join a fraternity - dont want your GPA going down anymore than it appears to be and all...

[hockeydude1234]

i just dont know whayt frats do besides mixers, etc..

[12dn94dst]

check out a national website or two. or find a fraternity member and ask.

[nwu43]

Originally Posted by PeppyGPhiB

Although your post is somewhat insulting, I'll point out one thing to you: on most campuses, greeks have higher GPAs than the non-greeks. Look into it.

I didn't even know that (just curious if you have a source? I'd like to show that to some of my high school friends and relatives that I'm trying to convince to go greek )


In any case, Hockeydude, I don't think you can generalize that much and say that pledging lowers GPA just because of some friends/ppl you know. Is *each* one of them from a different fraternity and representative of that fraternity? Greek organizations aren't all the same, and if they're all from one or two of the same frats, it could be just those frats in particular that have issues that you're concerned about (and even that isn't necessarily true because it is doubtful that a handful of people can represent a whole organization)

You also already said in your first post what frats do besides mixers.

IMO, the long lasting friendships and alumni connections alone make it worthwhile to join a fraternity. I also think being Greek in general (and someone correct me if I'm wrong) can improve your resume and help you with getting a job in future especially if you take on leadership positions.

[Tom Earp]

If you do not have enough gumption to check out what Greeks stand for and do, they may not be right for you?

[dgdramadawg]

Originally Posted by nwu43

I didn't even know that (just curious if you have a source? I'd like to show that to some of my high school friends and relatives that I'm trying to convince to go greek )

Example from UGA as of Fall 2006 (It's on the Panhel website):
All Men's Average: 3.01
All Fraternity Average: 3.10 (Fraternity men are .09 higher than other guys)

All Women's Average: 3.23
All Sorority Average: 3.29 (Sorority women are .06 higher than other girls)

All Undergraduate Average: 3.12
All Greek Average: 3.23 (Greeks are .11 higher than other undergrads)

Some other statistics from the IFC's Spring 2006 Report:
All Men's Average: 3.04
All Fraternity Average: 3.17 (Fraternity men are .13 higher than other guys)
Fraternity New Member Average: 3.00 (Yes, this is certainly lower than the 3.04 men's average... but this certainly doesn't indicate a massive number of guys with below a 2.5 as the OP suggested)

A lot of schools have similar reports available.

To the OP: If you have several friends who pledged, why not ask them why they think you should join?

[susan314]

Originally Posted by nwu43

I didn't even know that (just curious if you have a source? I'd like to show that to some of my high school friends and relatives that I'm trying to convince to go greek )

I'd check the Greek Affairs website for the school that they are planning to attend - there may be data specific to that school available.

BGSU has reports on their website - the fraternity men's GPA is higher than the all men's GPA, and the All Greek GPA is higher than the non-Greek GPA.

http://www.bgsu.edu/offices/sa/greek...page15839.html

You can search other school websites for similar info.