"Why Did You Decide to Join ...That?"

[RozRochelle]

Originally Posted by AKA_Monet

Roz-

What if TOMORROW, Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority, Inc. changed it policies on membership intake and stated we will now induct non-traditional, online, and part time students because they can become valued members to my Sorority?

How would your sorority "compete" against our years of inducting (spelled marketing, membership information and recruitment) of members?

I think sistahgreeks, Ladylike and DSTChaos are trying to help you. Along with BlueReign and my soror, RefinedDiva... They are PROFESSIONALS in various fields that KNOW how something in life works... I know my Soror Refined is in the law and there are several legal things you need to be following so that when someone sues you, you are not asking your membership to pay...

By statements like: "Asking how to run a GLO, then stating that you don't have to "justify" your organization...Well, that sounds too much like biting the hand that fed you...

I'm truly not being a smart-aleck when I say this, but that was helping? It felt like being targeted, to me. Other than that, I see what you are saying. And, maybe these ladies are trying to help me. If they are trying to help, I would like to be able to receive it in the right spirit. But, I can't receive it if it is sandwiched between smart-aleck barbs, and backhanded insults subtlely disguised in wordplay. I'm good, but I ain't that good.

I welcome help. But, please, can all the attitude be left out of it?

As to the first part you wrote, I think it would be fantastic if AKA did that! My whole thing is that everyone has a place they can belong, if they want to belong. How would AKAs (or the NPHCs) decision affect my org? Well, there will be some (or maybe even a lot of) women we won't get, but as I stated earlier, I'm okay with being a small org, or even a local or regional one.

However, there will always be those women who, for whatever reasons, don't feel they are a "fit" for AKA or the other D9 sororities. I know that might be hard for you all to consider, but people have all kinds of reasons only privy to themselves, about why they feel the way they feel or do what they do. It is inevitable that there will still be (non-dysfunctional) women who don't click with the D9, but who still want to be a part of a Greek letter sisterhood. They should have a place. There are only 4 of y'all, and you're not everywhere, and you can't be everything to everybody.

There's no guarantee that these women will want to join Theta Gamma Pi, but at least there will be another option available to them. I'm not trying to compete. Theta Gamma Pi will have who it is supposed to have.

Thanks for your input.

[Live_Wire17]

Originally Posted by RozRochelle

However, there will always be those women who, for whatever reasons, don't feel they are a "fit" for AKA or the other D9 sororities. I know that might be hard for you all to consider, but people have all kinds of reasons only privy to themselves, about why they feel the way they feel or do what they do. It is inevitable that there will still be (non-dysfunctional) women who don't click with the D9, but who still want to be a part of a Greek letter sisterhood. They should have a place. There are only 4 of y'all, and you're not everywhere, and you can't be everything to everybody.
There's no guarantee that these women will want to join Theta Gamma Pi, but at least there will be another option available to them. I'm not trying to compete. Theta Gamma Pi will have who it is supposed to have.

Thanks for your input.

To the bold:
We are EVERYWHERE...MANY CALL BUT FEW ARE CHOSEN. D9 OR BUST!!

LOL!!!

[AKA_Monet]

Roz-

Most of us in the D9 have initiation rituals that when candidates "pledge themselves" into full fledge membership into with all rites in respective sorority. Since, I made vows to be of assistance to all my sorors in need. and then you "rail" against my Soror Little32, not only am I going to tell you to cease and desist because she is my Soror, but also, I am going to do it because I know her personally, like a relative in my family.

It is like family for us...

As decorum and deference, it is improper because it not protocol and it is uncouth. Diplomacy and good relations are not promoted and then it translates to miscommunication and misunderstanding and a lot of ill will.

[RozRochelle]

Originally Posted by AKA_Monet

Roz-

Most of us in the D9 have initiation rituals that when candidates "pledge themselves" into full fledge membership into with all rites in respective sorority. Since, I made vows to be of assistance to all my sorors in need. and then you "rail" against my Soror Little32, not only am I going to tell you to cease and desist because she is my Soror, but also, I am going to do it because I know her personally, like a relative in my family.

It is like family for us...

To me, right is right and wrong is wrong. Period. Damn an allegiance. The more you all respond, trying to make everything that's happened here solely my fault (I jacked some stuff up, I admit that, but everything is not solely my fault and I truly feel that's what y'all want me to cop to, and that is not going to happen), the more I know that this whole debate is a moot point because in you all's eyes I'm "other", and as such I will never be in the right when it comes to any conflict involving another one of "you". So I took a Fukitol pill and I'm chilling. Y'all just do what y'all do, and I'll just do what I'm going to do. We ain't gotta be friends, friendly, or anything else, but I'm not going anywhere. I have as much right to be here as any of you.

As decorum and deference, it is improper because it not protocol and it is uncouth. Diplomacy and good relations are not promoted and then it translates to miscommunication and misunderstanding and a lot of ill will.

I hear what you're saying here, and I agree. But, hear me: Protocol is learned. You learned NPHC protocol because you're in a NPHC organization. I'm not. Until I started my sorority, I wasn't even a greek and had zero knowledge about the inner workings of greekdom. It is unrealistic to think that a total newbie is going to know the many UNWRITTEN rules of NPHC protocol. Hell, the so-called written ones on here are wide open to interpretation, with the advantage going to the prophyte (I think that's the right term) over the neophyte in ALL things.

I started out on GC trying to be friendly and I never INITIATED a conversation with someone by being disrespectful or condescending. However, others - including you - initiated communication with me in that manner, for no other reason than I was new and maybe made a faux pas out of naivete. There was no benefit of the doubt or anything given me.

You all had a preconceived idea about me - based on past experience with new orgs and their members who came on here to start trouble - because I was new and repping a new org. So, despite you all's so-called dislike of stereotyping, you stereotyped me, and lumped me in with the "enemy", and treated me accordingly. THAT was when my attitude changed, and if the truth be told, my attitude has only been negative with those who have approached me negatively, FIRST.

Just because I'm new to this does not give any of you the right to insult me and be condescending to me. And if you think I'm going to sit back and grin and drool like a simpleton, and ask for more please, while y'all shove disrespect down my throat, you have another thing and another think coming.

Y'all just do your thing and let me do mine. Neither the twain need to meet.

PEACE

[pinkies up]

Do you have a website for your organization?

[AKA_Monet]

Decorum is a reference of esteemed intelligence and family origin. It is was developed in the Royal Court since Roman times and it is high society. You can think and behave however you choose, but in most civilized societies, people interact properly and appropriately in order to conduct business and communication.

Have you ever said any members of the NPHC that is respectful? Your mere comments to me state how you have choosen to denigrate and demean us, and then demand our assistance with our expertise.

When several other greek members have given you there "professional opinion" because they work in nonprofit and for profit organizational development, you have berated and insulted their intelligence. Then you choose to become defensive and deride us further.

Suggestion: Just stop posting on GC where NPHC members frequent. That way, you will never have to worry about anything. Continue posting what you have written below and you will continue to cry about why we NPHC members seem not like what you say or how you say it. Keep is simple for yourself.

You can delete your posts. But once you put it out there, you cannot rescind it...

Originally Posted by RozRochelle

To me, right is right and wrong is wrong. Period. Damn an allegiance. The more you all respond, trying to make everything that's happened here solely my fault (I jacked some stuff up, I admit that, but everything is not solely my fault and I truly feel that's what y'all want me to cop to, and that is not going to happen), the more I know that this whole debate is a moot point because in you all's eyes I'm "other", and as such I will never be in the right when it comes to any conflict involving another one of "you". So I took a Fukitol pill and I'm chilling. Y'all just do what y'all do, and I'll just do what I'm going to do. We ain't gotta be friends, friendly, or anything else, but I'm not going anywhere. I have as much right to be here as any of you.

I hear what you're saying here, and I agree. But, hear me: Protocol is learned. You learned NPHC protocol because you're in a NPHC organization. I'm not. Until I started my sorority, I wasn't even a greek and had zero knowledge about the inner workings of greekdom. It is unrealistic to think that a total newbie is going to know the many UNWRITTEN rules of NPHC protocol. Hell, the so-called written ones on here are wide open to interpretation, with the advantage going to the prophyte (I think that's the right term) over the neophyte in ALL things.

I started out on GC trying to be friendly and I never INITIATED a conversation with someone by being disrespectful or condescending. However, others - including you - initiated communication with me in that manner, for no other reason than I was new and maybe made a faux pas out of naivete. There was no benefit of the doubt or anything given me.

You all had a preconceived idea about me - based on past experience with new orgs and their members who came on here to start trouble - because I was new and repping a new org. So, despite you all's so-called dislike of stereotyping, you stereotyped me, and lumped me in with the "enemy", and treated me accordingly. THAT was when my attitude changed, and if the truth be told, my attitude has only been negative with those who have approached me negatively, FIRST.

Just because I'm new to this does not give any of you the right to insult me and be condescending to me. And if you think I'm going to sit back and grin and drool like a simpleton, and ask for more please, while y'all shove disrespect down my throat, you have another thing and another think coming.

Y'all just do your thing and let me do mine. Neither the twain need to meet.

PEACE

[Little32]

Soror AKA_Monet,

I have stopped posting to Roz, because some folks just actively chose not to get it. Some folks are so intent on being right in their perception, that it doesn't matter if everyone else is saying the same thing about their actions...that just means that everyone else is crazy (I think that ladygreek said this).

Anyway, I hope all is well out your way.

[AKA_Monet]

I know Soror Little32,

Roz is a "special case" that requires "special education". She has started a "Sorority" with greek letters that represents...

My only point to even giving her deference, is the more she says, the more we learn about this "case study"...

[Little32]

Originally Posted by AKA_Monet

Since, I made vows to be of assistance to all my sorors in need. and then you "rail" against my Soror Little32, not only am I going to tell you to cease and desist because she is my Soror, but also, I am going to do it because I know her personally, like a relative in my family.

It is like family for us...

Thank you Soror, !