Woman dies in hospital while being arrested

[SOPi_Jawbreaker]

This is slightly off on a tangent. Awhile back I had read an article on msn.com (can't find it now ). It was about the differences in men's and women's health and specific things women should be aware of and vigilant about. One of the things they mentioned in the article is that there is still sometimes an old-fashioned tendency to take men's pain more seriously and to dismiss women's pain as "oh she's just being hysterical/whiny/over-dramatic/exagerating/difficult/etc". When I read the first couple sentences of the article about the woman who died, I thought about the msn.com article. Perhaps, the staff thought "oh she's not really in that much pain, she's just complaining for attention or to be difficult". Not saying that the staff ignoring her was right, but this could be a possible explanation for how they could have let her yell for help for 90 minutes without doing anything.

[AKA_Monet]

Originally Posted by SOPi_Jawbreaker

This is slightly off on a tangent. Awhile back I had read an article on msn.com (can't find it now ). It was about the differences in men's and women's health and specific things women should be aware of and vigilant about. One of the things they mentioned in the article is that there is still sometimes an old-fashioned tendency to take men's pain more seriously and to dismiss women's pain as "oh she's just being hysterical/whiny/over-dramatic/exagerating/difficult/etc". When I read the first couple sentences of the article about the woman who died, I thought about the msn.com article. Perhaps, the staff thought "oh she's not really in that much pain, she's just complaining for attention or to be difficult". Not saying that the staff ignoring her was right, but this could be a possible explanation for how they could have let her yell for help for 90 minutes without doing anything.

You are right. The measurement of pain and distress is hard to gage in patients when they suffer. The key for patients and their loved ones is to give immediate metrics when they are in pain. It is very hard for people who suffer though.

Usually, you state when the pain started, how long you have been having the pain, what if feels like and where it is. They staff undergoes several tests then send you on your way...

This is the key: maybe they should have not sent her on her way...

[AGDee]

Originally Posted by AKA_Monet

You are right. The measurement of pain and distress is hard to gage in patients when they suffer. The key for patients and their loved ones is to give immediate metrics when they are in pain. It is very hard for people who suffer though.

Usually, you state when the pain started, how long you have been having the pain, what if feels like and where it is. They staff undergoes several tests then send you on your way...

This is the key: maybe they should have not sent her on her way...

Agreed. After my bowel resection surgery, I was telling the nurse that the pain was a 10 and I needed more pain meds. She called my surgeon who said "Those Crohn's patients always think they are in pain, she's ok". THEN she called my gastro, who knew me well and had been treating me for a long time who told the nurse "This woman is a rock and refuses pain meds all the time, if she says she needs more, she needs more" and gave an order for a different med. It's important to have *someone* who knows your situation going to bat for you! But, my gastro knew the level of pain I'd been living with on a daily basis too.

It does sound like they didn't do quite enough to seek out what was causing the pain for this woman. I'm probably feeling more sympathetic toward her because I could see something like that happening to me before I was diagnosed with the Crohn's. Now, I think just saying "Crohn's" would cause them to check out more stuff if I went to ER with abdominal pain.

Realistically, if she died from being septic that quickly, she probably would have died anyway. She probably would still be undergoing diagnostics after a few hours and it's not easy to find a bowel perforation.

[NinjaPoodle]

Woman dies in ER lobby as 911 refuses to help
Tapes show operators ignored pleas to send ambulance to L.A. hospital

LOS ANGELES - A woman who lay bleeding on the emergency room floor of a troubled inner-city hospital died after 911 dispatchers refused to contact paramedics or an ambulance to take her to another facility, newly released tapes of the emergency calls reveal.

Edith Isabel Rodriguez, 43, died of a perforated bowel on May 9 at Martin Luther King Jr.-Harbor Hospital. Her death was ruled accidental by the Los Angeles County coroner’s office.

Relatives said Rodriguez was bleeding from the mouth and writhing in pain for 45 minutes while she was at a hospital waiting area. Experts have said she could have survived had she been treated early enough.

Read the rest....http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19207050/?GT1=10056 includes video

[ZChi4Life]

Originally Posted by NinjaPoodle

Woman dies in ER lobby as 911 refuses to help
Tapes show operators ignored pleas to send ambulance to L.A. hospital

LOS ANGELES - A woman who lay bleeding on the emergency room floor of a troubled inner-city hospital died after 911 dispatchers refused to contact paramedics or an ambulance to take her to another facility, newly released tapes of the emergency calls reveal.

Edith Isabel Rodriguez, 43, died of a perforated bowel on May 9 at Martin Luther King Jr.-Harbor Hospital. Her death was ruled accidental by the Los Angeles County coroner’s office.

Relatives said Rodriguez was bleeding from the mouth and writhing in pain for 45 minutes while she was at a hospital waiting area. Experts have said she could have survived had she been treated early enough.

Read the rest....http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19207050/?GT1=10056 includes video

I heard about this on the news today! This was too sad, I don't understand what was going on w/ the hospital staff. I can't believe this happened. So tragic!