Woman dies in hospital while being arrested

[OneTimeSBX]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

People in DC and Baltimore City can be charged anywhere from $75 to $150 dollars "service and dischage fee" should you ever require one and bill it to you directly (before they send it to insurance....heh)

hell daemon, if you were a bit further south in the wonderful Commonwealth of VA, you could be charged more than that...my fiance got a bill for $375. his insurance covered 100 of it...i understand a fee, but my goodness that is a bit much, dont you think?

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by OneTimeSBX

hell daemon, if you were a bit further south in the wonderful Commonwealth of VA, you could be charged more than that...my fiance got a bill for $375. his insurance covered 100 of it...i understand a fee, but my goodness that is a bit much, dont you think?

hey, Im in DC and worked in Alexandria for a year.....for an insurance company....LOL...I have heard the stories....matter of fact my new insurance info just came in the mail a week ago, I am still reading thru it...


Anybody ever take a look at Health Reinbursement/ Savings Plans?


If so, please thoroughly check ur policy...u would be surprised the things u have to come out of ur pockets for.

[RU OX Alum]

Originally Posted by OneTimeSBX

hell daemon, if you were a bit further south in the wonderful Commonwealth of VA, you could be charged more than that...my fiance got a bill for $375. his insurance covered 100 of it...i understand a fee, but my goodness that is a bit much, dont you think?

yeah, it's cheaper to drive yourself and get a speeding ticket actually

[OneTimeSBX]

Originally Posted by RU OX Alum

yeah, it's cheaper to drive yourself and get a speeding ticket actually

how sad is that! and if youve been a while without getting a ticket you can get off with driving school...that is, after you have been discharged from the hospital lol

[RU OX Alum]

Originally Posted by OneTimeSBX

how sad is that! and if youve been a while without getting a ticket you can get off with driving school...that is, after you have been discharged from the hospital lol

yeah, i would have to go to back to driving school after my legs healed or maybe use the crutch to reach the clutch

[shinerbock]

I think that bill in Kevin's state is reasonable. It sounds similar to good Samaritan laws...I think if you don't have health insurance/any other way to pay, and you're treated by a doctor, you shouldn't be able to sue for simple negligence. Reckless or gross negligence could be a different story, but otherwise it is placing an extremely high burden on medical professionals without any benefit being conferred upon them.

Of course, maybe exculpatory agreements can eliminate the burden, and maybe they do (I don't have any familiarity with how uninsured patients are treated).

[OneTimeSBX]

ooohhh...now i can almost agree with the states not allowing claims for smaller incidents. gross negligence should be covered no matter what the patients insurance situation is, because if an uninsured person is improperly treated, so will an insured person. i love one of the hospitals in VA, they dont ask anything at all about insurance until you are on your way out the door, which means they have to treat everyone as if they do have it.

[AKA_Monet]

Firstly, none of the GC Physicians are here because they are working in these kinds of places and they cannot defend there actions.

Secondly, I see animals all the time and have to gauge their pain responses before I have to do something to stop experiements. Because pain and distress is an OLAW violation.

Emergency rooms are hectic, and many people including healthcare staff are distressed. One snapshot is not going to give folks the constant turn around they need to see the entire display for weeks to years serving in the Wards. Most resident physicians stay on emergency duty for 2-3 years before they get boarded in the field.

That chit you see on ER... Bullisht.

The primary goal of the ER is to stabilize the patient. Period. That is their directive. That is how hospitals "evaluate" their practice. I cannot stress this enough:

FULL RESOLUTION TO HEAL OF A SERIOUS CHRONIC MEDICAL PROBLEM BY EMERGENCY ROOM CARE DOES NOT WORK!

This told to me by the Chief of Internal Medicine at a major hospital in my area... People cannot think the emergency medicine can be used in replacement for seeing their primary care health provider. Yes, go to emergency if your are bleeding. Yes, go to emergency in you have a 200 F temperature. Yes, go to emergency if you are hacking up purple stuff. But routine medical visits just to see doctors... YOu will not get seen properly... The emergency physician does not detect those things...

You have to follow up. Apparently, it sounds like this woman did not do that and she lost her life. But if there are 4-5 independent reviews and 20 times it shows that this woman skipped her appointments, then what are we suppose to say?

Say if this woman could have benefitted from a MRI, would she have waited until the dayum magnet would have heated up? That takes 6-12 hours to heat up the magnet. And if it is a charity hospital--GUESS WHAT!!! There is no 1.8 Tesla Magnet!!! That's off site! Missed appointment again...

This is what I do with my Health Forums. Educate the clients on what is possible when you visit your physicians. Showing that when your PHCP tells you something, they are not joking or wasting your time. They are SERIOUS. People do not know HOW to go to the doctor anymore. It's beyond "Open your mouth and say ahh and take 2 of these and call me in the morning..."

[kstar]

AKA_Monet:

When did she have time for follow up when she was released "hours earlier"?

[KSigkid]

Originally Posted by AKA_Monet

The primary goal of the ER is to stabilize the patient. Period. That is their directive. That is how hospitals "evaluate" their practice. I cannot stress this enough:

FULL RESOLUTION TO HEAL OF A SERIOUS CHRONIC MEDICAL PROBLEM BY EMERGENCY ROOM CARE DOES NOT WORK!

This told to me by the Chief of Internal Medicine at a major hospital in my area... People cannot think the emergency medicine can be used in replacement for seeing their primary care health provider. Yes, go to emergency if your are bleeding. Yes, go to emergency in you have a 200 F temperature. Yes, go to emergency if you are hacking up purple stuff. But routine medical visits just to see doctors... YOu will not get seen properly... The emergency physician does not detect those things...

You have to follow up. Apparently, it sounds like this woman did not do that and she lost her life. But if there are 4-5 independent reviews and 20 times it shows that this woman skipped her appointments, then what are we suppose to say?

This is almost exactly what I was told by one of my law school classmates (previously an ER doctor in a major teaching hospital). At some point, the patient has to take responsibility for at least part of their medical situation.