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Old 05-20-2007, 09:41 AM
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Um, no. I was shocked to read that article and more than surprised to learn that this was even considered. Advertise your secrets to the world? Are you f-ing kidding me?

Yes, I realize that we've got an open constitution, but there's got to be some sort of secrecy involved. Think back through the ritual and you will see that this is a completely unacceptable idea.
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I would also agree that the secrets should be kept secret. Isn't it our ritual that ties us together throughout the nation? It should not be made public under any circumstances. It will mark the demise of the fraternity.
I agree with both ouf you. But since I am not allowed to vote a the Convention (the only place this issue should be decided, either that or "one man" "one vote" for every Beta Active or Alum).

However, for the sake of discussion, detail your reasoning why this would be the death peal for our Fraternity and support and defend your position why that which is now secret should not be made public.

I will give my "other side" view (taking it for the sake of an open discussion). I will use the example of the Masonic Lodge. The Lodge is still considered to have secrets (grips, words, oaths, obligations, penalties etc). Yet, one can go to many book stores and purchase two books that completely give away the entire ritual, grips, words, oaths, obligations, penalties etc.

Many members have joined knowing the answers where out there yet did not go the store and get them.

I think after the initial "shock and awe" wears off, we will be back to a group of pledges that do not take the time to go get the book and still come into the Beta with no knowledge.

An interesting sidebar to this is what would our Brotherhood be like if the pledges knew more of what Beta was about before they pledged. Members that chose to come to Beta BECAUSE of what they knew, not what they were seeking.

Again, I do not support the idea of giving away our secrets. I will abide by rules of the Brotherhood and support the decision of the Convention of the proper powers that determine what gets published.

Also, for the sake of an open discussion, I have opted to post an alternative viewpoint opposite of what I believe.

I hope more Brothers post here in a calm and thoughtful manner.
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