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Old 05-19-2007, 07:18 PM
JWithers JWithers is offline
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Same question I like to ask of these folks here who think that 'getting a job' will stop the food stamp proliferation.


Are these same people who think it's so easy are they willing to provide opportunities for these folk?

You're right. Sitting on your behind and collecting a check is a much better option. I have worked crap jobs to pay my bills and hated it. But I did it because it was what was right and I was able and willing to work. Not take a handout.

And it's not my job to provide work for people. It's not my job to hold their hands and fill out the jop app. for them. No one did it for me and guess what? It ain't that hard.

Everywhere you go there are signs for help wanted. Sorry if it's beneath people to work at Wal-Mart or at a fast food place.

You don't need outside guidance to take a shower, fill out a job app. and earn a living. It might be a low-paying living, I know. I worked 3 jobs at one time. But is that less noble that taking a check you didn't earn?

For the record, how many jobless welfare recipients have you given a job to, or helped find a job? How many of them kept the job more than a month? How many never showed for the interview?
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Old 05-19-2007, 07:57 PM
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You're right. Sitting on your behind and collecting a check is a much better option. I have worked crap jobs to pay my bills and hated it. But I did it because it was what was right and I was able and willing to work. Not take a handout.

And it's not my job to provide work for people. It's not my job to hold their hands and fill out the jop app. for them. No one did it for me and guess what? It ain't that hard.

Everywhere you go there are signs for help wanted. Sorry if it's beneath people to work at Wal-Mart or at a fast food place.

You don't need outside guidance to take a shower, fill out a job app. and earn a living. It might be a low-paying living, I know. I worked 3 jobs at one time. But is that less noble that taking a check you didn't earn?

For the record, how many jobless welfare recipients have you given a job to, or helped find a job? How many of them kept the job more than a month? How many never showed for the interview?

I can't count how many, but when I did addictions counseling a few years back, many of those folks I sat with and counseled on how to type a proper resume, how to be successful at a job interview etc.

No you cannot CANNOT be responsible for handholding...what we CAN do is open the DOOR. THEY have to choose to walk thru.

NOT EVERYONE had the same kinds of opportunities and life lessons that most of us have had...me...I have never gone longer than 2 weeks without employment....but everyone cannot say that they had the same will that WE have...but how can you complain if you aren't willing to take time out to DO something.

You mistake GIVING A HAND OUT to creating opportunities for those that have none, I don't beleive that you give something to someoen...what you do is EDUCATE if u can for those willing to listen and learn.

That in part is MY community service, to help those without the ABILITY to help themselves not to sit back watch others go thru the dark when I have a perfectly good light and map in front of me.

I have had kids in my community who came from poor families that i helped send to college...one of wich recently not only GRADUATED from my almer mater 3 years ago (1st in his family) but is a police officer with the Baltimore city police and back in school for his Master's.
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