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Old 05-18-2007, 02:32 PM
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Kevin...and while u are at it....if you ever made that trek into Baltimore or DC....for each and every person you see...

For each reformed or down on thier luck junkie I want you to look them in the eye and tell them get a job

For each abused adult who can't get medical help I want you to look them in the eye and tell them get a job

For someone who is so infirm they can't get a job I want you to look them in the eye and tell them get a job


For each able bodied Katrina victim displaced this far north I want you to look them in the eye and tell them get a job
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Old 05-18-2007, 03:14 PM
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**blowing kisses at squirrly...

thank you!

milk in VA is 3.50 a gallon. on 21 bucks a week, that leaves 16.50.
eggs run you a buck, 15.50.
juice, even your cheapy store brand? 1.50 a half gallon? 1 gallon worth leaves 12.50
bread runs 1.50 or so? 11.00
a pack of bologna, another 1.50... 9.50
cheese anyone? 2 bucks, 7.50.
a few cans of vegetables at 50 cents 5.50
of course the ever popular ramen noodles (smile!) 10cents a pack, another buck for 10 packs...4.50.
and hell, lets splurge. a box of CORN FLAKES for the milk. 2.50 for those..

you have a grand total of $2.00 left. that goes towards taxes.

now does any of that seem healthy to you? the milk and eggs and veggies are ok, the cereal will cover a few meals, but i know i personally would be starving on this much food! god forbid you need some of that extra money for gas/bus fare...youre doomed!

a bag of greasy, salty, fattening potato chips can cost as little as 99 cents, while a bag of your brand name, baked, low sodium, trans fat free chips are almost $3.00!! that is why the poor can still end up obese!
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Old 05-18-2007, 03:21 PM
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**blowing kisses at squirrly...

thank you!

milk in VA is 3.50 a gallon. on 21 bucks a week, that leaves 16.50.
eggs run you a buck, 15.50.
juice, even your cheapy store brand? 1.50 a half gallon? 1 gallon worth leaves 12.50
bread runs 1.50 or so? 11.00
a pack of bologna, another 1.50... 9.50
cheese anyone? 2 bucks, 7.50.
a few cans of vegetables at 50 cents 5.50
of course the ever popular ramen noodles (smile!) 10cents a pack, another buck for 10 packs...4.50.
and hell, lets splurge. a box of CORN FLAKES for the milk. 2.50 for those..

you have a grand total of $2.00 left. that goes towards taxes.

now does any of that seem healthy to you? the milk and eggs and veggies are ok, the cereal will cover a few meals, but i know i personally would be starving on this much food! god forbid you need some of that extra money for gas/bus fare...youre doomed!

a bag of greasy, salty, fattening potato chips can cost as little as 99 cents, while a bag of your brand name, baked, low sodium, trans fat free chips are almost $3.00!! that is why the poor can still end up obese!
Hole up, thure...u gotta say what kinda Corn Flakes you referring to!!! YA KNOW...Kellogs and the generics are 2 different flavors!!!

and what the heck are we drinking??? You cant splurge unless you get a few packs of koll aid (red) or a bottle of the 1.99 juice and then whatever change u got left...then u can splurge
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Old 05-18-2007, 03:28 PM
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lmao my bad!

get the generic corn flakes (which sometimes taste better), forget the juice and get 10 packs of red (not cherry, RED!) kool-aid and 2 5-pound bags of sugar lol...hell we may even have enough for a can or two of tuna!

point is, you are gonna be one hungry, irritable person at the end of the day.

and another point, i think that is also why some of these kids get labeled as ADHD when their a**es are HUNGRY! you'd be staring into space and acting out too!
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Old 05-18-2007, 03:33 PM
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I am amazed how many people think they can live on $21.00 a week for food.

I am single and pinch pennies when buying food.

Try owning a smal business and not making much out of it.

If you own a business, you cannot get on food stamps/now vision cards and amazing how many people ahve them and try to buy not approved food items!

Or "Mothers Day" when welfare checks come out and they drive up to one of the infamous liquor stores in their Cadillacs to buy booze and cash them!

Kevin, YOU are a disgrace to man kind for coming from a Mid USA State going to a State School and working to get through and graduating and then going to Law School! How can you be so crass?

Oh, Vision cards will not work in ATMs as I have had some try and get made at me!
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Old 05-18-2007, 03:38 PM
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I am amazed how many people think they can live on $21.00 a week for food.

I am single and pinch pennies when buying food.

Try owning a smal business and not making much out of it.

If you own a business, you cannot get on food stamps/now vision cards and amazing how many people ahve them and try to buy not approved food items!

Or "Mothers Day" when welfare checks come out and they drive up to one of the infamous liquor stores in their Cadillacs to buy booze and cash them!

Kevin, YOU are a disgrace to man kind for coming from a Mid USA State going to a State School and working to get through and graduating and then going to Law School! How can you be so crass?

Oh, Vision cards will not work in ATMs as I have had some try and get made at me!
And some of those people that own thier businesses have a helluva time paying for insurance....if they have insurance
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Old 05-18-2007, 03:46 PM
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Or "Mothers Day" when welfare checks come out and they drive up to one of the infamous liquor stores in their Cadillacs to buy booze and cash them!

Kevin, YOU are a disgrace to man kind for coming from a Mid USA State going to a State School and working to get through and graduating and then going to Law School! How can you be so crass?
oh dear lord. i won't even get started on the terms you choose to use.

however, tom, i come from a mid usa state and went to a state school, in addition to working the midnight shift all four years while double majoring. oh yah. i've since gone on to get a masters and start work on my phd. i have funded everything on my own through loans and work. but that is NOTHING SPECIAL. i'm still a lucky bastard for the opportunities i've been afforded in my life. not everybody is that lucky. but situation and circumstance don't excuse you from caring or being firmly grounded in reality.

i'm sincere when i say that pinching pennies while food shopping sucks and i fully empathize with you. but then you could always take kevin's earlier advice and get a different job... but i don't think that fixes a SOCIETAL issue.

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Old 05-18-2007, 03:53 PM
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on a side note, i just wanna throw it out there that i usually don't post a whole lot on GC in general, let alone a single thread. but i'm REALLY passionate about the topics of eating patterns and obesity and particularly how environment and situation effect them. i'm not trying to rant or pick on anybody. really. its just hard to spend my time studying and researching these phenomenon and have uninformed people saying *what i personally perceive to be* cruel and ignorant things.

i apologize if anybody is offended but that's just how it is.

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Old 05-18-2007, 03:58 PM
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@ squirrely...

there is an article on CNN's blogspot about how childhood obesity is being blamed on WOMEN, and the fact that we are working now and not staying home with the kids...very interesting...

http://www.cnn.com/HEALTH/blogs/pagi...ity-among.html
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Old 05-18-2007, 07:00 PM
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No one is starving in America.

21 dollars a week means that they choose to not to supplement their government aid.

A person soliciting donations on a street corner IMO would earn a minimum of a dollar an hour. If they solicit for eight hours a day they would earn an extra eight dollars per day.

So let’s see here. $21.00 + $56.00 = $77.00 for food per week.
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Old 05-18-2007, 06:06 PM
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Kevin...and while u are at it....if you ever made that trek into Baltimore or DC....for each and every person you see...

For each reformed or down on thier luck junkie I want you to look them in the eye and tell them get a job
Taking drugs is a choice -- an illegal, unhealthy one at that. If they choose drugs over food, so be it. I could care less when they kick off.

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For each abused adult who can't get medical help I want you to look them in the eye and tell them get a job
Each "abused adult"? You mean the ones who can go to the numerous battered womens' shelters, possibly obtain victims protection orders (or whatever the local equivalent thereof is), etc. It's their choice to continue to be abused. If they want out of that position badly enough, there is an out, although, admittedly, they may not agree. It's still a choice.

Besides, in that case, I don't think an extra ten bucks in food stamps is going to be the answer to their problem.

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For someone who is so infirm they can't get a job I want you to look them in the eye and tell them get a job
They qualify for social security and disability and a myriad of other benefits. Therefore, no job needed. My arguments only really reach able bodied/able minded "working people" (as the Democrats would call them).

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I actually have. A guy hit me up for cash a few months back, gave me his Katrina spiel. I directed him to the standby manual labor company a few blocks from here.

Again, Democrats argue that there are immigrants here to do jobs "Americans won't do." If they won't work, why should I owe them a living?
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Old 05-18-2007, 06:23 PM
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Taking drugs is a choice -- an illegal, unhealthy one at that. If they choose drugs over food, so be it. I could care less when they kick off.



Each "abused adult"? You mean the ones who can go to the numerous battered womens' shelters, possibly obtain victims protection orders (or whatever the local equivalent thereof is), etc. It's their choice to continue to be abused. If they want out of that position badly enough, there is an out, although, admittedly, they may not agree. It's still a choice.

Besides, in that case, I don't think an extra ten bucks in food stamps is going to be the answer to their problem.



They qualify for social security and disability and a myriad of other benefits. Therefore, no job needed. My arguments only really reach able bodied/able minded "working people" (as the Democrats would call them).



I actually have. A guy hit me up for cash a few months back, gave me his Katrina spiel. I directed him to the standby manual labor company a few blocks from here.

Again, Democrats argue that there are immigrants here to do jobs "Americans won't do." If they won't work, why should I owe them a living?

Amen, Kevin. I have a pre-schooler who can already chant the family's mantra "You are responsible for your own actions". Yes, sometimes people are handed a crap deal, but you can't take it lying down. Get up, get moving and get over it. Often times, people make their own 'bad luck' which is just a symptom of 'bad choices'. I know it isn't always the case, so no flames.
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This thread is a hell of a lot like this one: http://greekchat.com/gcforums/showth...light=homeless
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