America's Next Top Model-Cycle 8

[ASUADPi]

Originally Posted by ZTABullwinkle

Does anyone else feel like they wasted a whole season watching this?? I realized tonight that not only can I stand to listen to her speak, but it is painful to watch her speak...

Remember this is my $ .02 opinion....

(ASUADPi is raising her hand)

ME!!!!!

[KDAngel]

I'm just glad it wasn't Natasha who won.

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I am just glad Renee did not win. I never liked her. She was too irritating. I was so glad to see her go. I failed to see her beauty when she had the ugliest attitude.

[33girl]

Wow, Natasha and Melinda from Idol gone in the same night. It must have been "get rid of everyone with no neck" day.

WTH was Natasha wearing at panel?? Her dress was fug, and her hair...yipes. It made the neck issue even worse. Jaslene, by contrast, looked stunning.

CG wants the Latin market...it's just a tad-bit larger than the Russian mail order bride market. I did kind of clutch at the end last night, but really on the whole, this was a no-brainer.

[OneTimeSBX]

Originally Posted by 33girl

CG wants the Latin market...it's just a tad-bit larger than the Russian mail order bride market...

lmao! soo true, Natasha freaked me out from day 1, cooing on the phone with that old-geezer husband of hers lol. and yes, Jaslene is probably really Janice's daughter from another life, there is no other explanation

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Originally Posted by OneTimeSBX

lmao! soo true, Natasha freaked me out from day 1, cooing on the phone with that old-geezer husband of hers lol.

How does 40 yrs old make you an old geezer? Yeah she may be 20 yrs old, but so what? A 20 year age difference does freak me out just a bit, but what do I know? Age does not matter to some people. I dated someone and our age difference was not much smaller than that.
Natasha was actually my favorite from this season. She has this personality that I just love. I thought she did a great job on the show. I did think Jaslene was better than her, but Natasha just seemed like a great girl with a lot of potential.

And why are picking on the Russian mail order bride thing? It is really not that different from the online dating sites. My dad has gone on the Russian bride sites and it is just like Match.com.

Originally Posted by smiley21

How does 40 yrs old make you an old geezer? Yeah she may be 20 yrs old, but so what? A 20 year age difference does freak me out just a bit, but what do I know? Age does not matter to some people. I dated someone and our age difference was not much smaller than that.
Natasha was actually my favorite from this season. She has this personality that I just love. I thought she did a great job on the show. I did think Jaslene was better than her, but Natasha just seemed like a great girl with a lot of potential.

And why are picking on the Russian mail order bride thing? It is really not that different from the online dating sites. My dad has gone on the Russian bride sites and it is just like Match.com.

Geez, sensitive much?

If people want to make fun of Russian mail order brides, they can. Some people just don't agree with women having to whore themselves out just to leave their country for "a better life". Natasha got lucky and found a man to save her, but let's face it -- it doesn't really carry the greatest reputation, especially when you've got dirty old men taking advantage of these young women. It's not limited to Russia, either. A man in my neighborhood was arrested for locking up his wife he brought over from the Philippines. If your "dad" went on those Russian bride sites...woohoo for him! But there are far more shady things going on, and no, IT'S NOT LIKE MATCH.COM.

After seeing Natasha's husband's photo, I can breathe a sigh of relief. He may be in his 40s, but he sure doesn't look like it. I was expecting no hair and a beer belly.

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Originally Posted by OTW

Geez, sensitive much?

If people want to make fun of Russian mail order brides, they can. Some people just don't agree with women having to whore themselves out just to leave their country for "a better life". Natasha got lucky and found a man to save her, but let's face it -- it doesn't really carry the greatest reputation, especially when you've got dirty old men taking advantage of these young women. It's not limited to Russia, either. A man in my neighborhood was arrested for locking up his wife he brought over from the Philippines. If your "dad" went on those Russian bride sites...woohoo for him! But there are far more shady things going on, and no, IT'S NOT LIKE MATCH.COM.

After seeing Natasha's husband's photo, I can breathe a sigh of relief. He may be in his 40s, but he sure doesn't look like it. I was expecting no hair and a beer belly.

No I am not trying to be defensive. And I know better than to think that I can tell people who and who not to make fun of. Furthermore, it does not matter what the website is, whether it be Russian/Asian mail order brides OR match/yahoo personals, you are always going to deal with psychos. It may be more prevalent with mail order brides.
My point is, we don't know the whole story behind Natasha. You could be totally wrong about her relationship or I could be totally wrong.

I never liked the whole "mail order brides" thing. Then, I saw Natasha and it gave me a different perspective. She seems to have a good head on her shoulders. Maybe it is not all shady.

And again, my whole thing with the Match.com comparison. They all provide serivices to help people find relationships. Now mail orders brides have a more "gold digger, i just want to be in America" or "i want a submissive young girl who i can slap around" stigma attached to it. Still, it is just another personals company.

[sigmadiva]

Originally Posted by 33girl

CG wants the Latin market...it's just a tad-bit larger than the Russian mail order bride market.

I soooo agree with you!!! In the end I was not surprised that Jaslene won. I think they wanted a Latina for that very reason - marketing. Not that Jaslene did not deserve it. I am glad she won. So, it would not surprise me that maybe within the next few seasons an Asian will win. Then after that a full figured woman will win.

I also did not like the Renee looks to old comment. I really did not like Renee, but to let her get that far then drop her for such a lame reason is lame.

[ASUADPi]

Originally Posted by sigmadiva

I soooo agree with you!!! In the end I was not surprised that Jaslene won. I think they wanted a Latina for that very reason - marketing. Not that Jaslene did not deserve it. I am glad she won. So, it would not surprise me that maybe within the next few seasons an Asian will win. Then after that a full figured woman will win.

I'm soooo ready for a plus size model to win.

Originally Posted by sigmadiva

I also did not like the Renee looks to old comment. I really did not like Renee, but to let her get that far then drop her for such a lame reason is lame.

I agree, totally a lame reason for her not to make the final two.


I just hope they make Jaslene see a speech coach because her speech could drive any person insane. I find it stupid that in Season 1 they totally got on Adrienne from day one about her speech but yet Jaslene talks, how should I put this, ghetto, and it's okay. I could barely understand half of what came out of her mouth because her speech is so bad.


The good thing for Renee though is that usually the top 3 still end up with a modeling contract, so I'm sure Renee has a contract by now.

[SSS1365]

I agree that Renee had a more mature look, but I noticed something the other night when she was kicked off and they showed all her photos from the season: They MADE her look "old" when they gave her the makeover and cut her hair off! She looked much younger in all of her photos in which she had longer hair or extensions. That was lame to kick her off at the end for that reason. As much as I didn't like her personality, she was the only one of those girls that took an amazing photo every time.

[OneTimeSBX]

i, too, am ready for a plus sized model to take it home...and yeah, an asian girl too. lets not forget the indians (american or not). i am glad though, that there has been a mix of races winning. otherwise id be a tad bit suspicious lol...!

[ASUADPi]

as much as I want a plus size model to win, and I might not sound politically correct, I would prefer a model winning (whatever her race or size) because she is the best one there. She either has taken consistently amazing photos (or has consistently improved to taking awesome photos), has a killer walk, has a great personality and can talk. For me if she is all of those things, it shouldn't matter what her race is.

The fact that they might be playing a race card is retarded. It reminds me of people trying to get into higher education schools (like masters, phd, law school, med school) and they (the schools) have to take a certain amount of minorities. It's stupid because people should get in based on their talents, grades, experiences, not the color of their skin. The same goes for this modeling contest (at least in my mind).

I just feel we need to stop looking at skin color.

(end of my soapbox rant because OMG I could get started with racial discrimination in just my school district. LOL)

[OneTimeSBX]

i dont think they are playing any sort of race card at all...it is refreshing to see a variety of people succeed in this sort of show! it shows how far we have all come.

and i do kinda agree that the best model should win. i think i started rooting for the plus sized girls because, well, i am built like most of them ( go home team lol! ) and i used to hate it soo much when Janice Dickenson used to whine about "shes not model material because shes too big/too short/etc." there have been some beautiful girls on this show, my favorite was Eva who was of course, too short. women come in a variety and im glad to see the show incorporates that.

(can i still root for the plus sized girls? it was so refreshing to see someone eat on that show lmao!)

[33girl]

Cover Girl needs a variety of faces (black, white, Asian, Latina) to sell their product to a variety of markets. The days of Christie Brinkley are long gone. It's been shown that people want to buy things from people who look like they do.

I don't think it is "racism" per se, just common sense marketing. The thing is that it's masquerading as a competition. It would be interesting to see what happened if CG pulled out of the show.