White men in NPHC

[Dougie]

Originally Posted by Reds6

Come on Dude you are strecthing it.

You think so? given the context which includes a line about black and white children holding hands, I don’t think its a stretch by any means. Plus I’m only talking about votes based solely on race ( and by that let me be clear: I mean skin color exclusively and not any behaviors stereotypically associated with race, assuming such behaviors have been exhibited by the candidate in question.

[Reds6]

Originally Posted by Dougie

You think so? given the context which includes a line about black and white children holding hands, I don’t think its a stretch by any means. Plus I’m only talking about votes based solely on race ( and by that let me be clear: I mean skin color exclusively and not any behaviors stereotypically associated with race, assuming such behaviors have been exhibited by the candidate in question.

Yes I think it is stretching it. We aren't talking about someone not being able to live in a particular neighborhood, hiring practices, or having the ability to an equal education as others. We are talking about a preference to have who you want in your particular private organization. To me it's not about the color of their skin but in my opinion the inability to comment themselves to causes that affect the black community with not just empathy but true understanding. For instance someone mentioned earlier that things are much better than during the civil rights movement. Well that right there is an issue for me. I don't discount the fact that my situation is better than my grandparents or even my parents, but I also recognize we have a long way to go as a people in terms of equality. When I look at the disparities of children in care, black men in the prison system, blacks receiving longer sentences for the same crime as their white peer, and the disparities of the number of black children living in poverty; I know we are overrepresented it disproportionate numbers in all of those systems and many others I understand we are far from the movement and work being older. I don't think most white people get that racism exist; the rather focus on that things aren't as bad as they were in the civil rights movement. I was born in '70, I'm not that far removed from the civil rights movement, heck I remember growing up in NC and knowing there were certain places I was not welcomed and you know what I'm still not welcomed there. I just question is whites can see the experiences that come with race as a person of color.

[KAPital PHINUst]

Originally Posted by Reds6

To me it's not about the color of their skin but in my opinion the inability to comment themselves to causes that affect the black community with not just empathy but true understanding...I don't think most white people get that racism exist; the rather focus on that things aren't as bad as they were in the civil rights movement. I was born in '70, I'm not that far removed from the civil rights movement, heck I remember growing up in NC and knowing there were certain places I was not welcomed and you know what I'm still not welcomed there. I just question is whites can see the experiences that come with race as a person of color.

While I see where you are coming from, Reds, that's an extremely short-sighted snap judgment your are passing not only on white people, but black people as well. Neither blacks nor whites are a monolithic cookie-cutter race. Blacks are no more inheritantly committed to the welfare of the Black community than Whites being inheritantly ignorant and insensitive to the challenges of Blacks.

I could say more, but suffice it say, whatever our social circles we congregate and socialize in, we are not a monolithic group.