Why do multicultural GLOs/organizations exist?

[rhoyaltempest]

Originally Posted by KAPital PHINUst

First and foremost Daemon, welcome to GC. Bring some more of your frat brothers in here for more good Greek discussions, we'd love to have 'em here.

Now to your question: I understand what you (and Rhoyal and Mccoyred) are saying, however perhaps I am missing a key element that the three of you have been trying to express; so I will rephrase my question another way:

Why can't NPHC orgs cater to the Black, Latino, Asian, White, and other ethnic communities at the same time? Please explain this to me. It's almost like the time a friend of mine told me as a kid he was so afraid of flying he was afraid to turn on the mini-AC above his seat because he thought he was diverting power away from the engines. What, the plane couldn't stay airborne and cool him off at the same time?

I understand your point but I guess the easiest way to respond would be to say that people like to help the communities in which they live or grew up in, especially if that community is in dire need of assistance. The community in which I grew up in for example, is in great need so I am always thinking of the people there when it comes to planning service projects and volunteering my time. Now if there are Whites, Latinos, and others who are now living there also and they are around when we are serving others, we wouldn't even think about turning them away just because they're not Black.

[KAPital PHINUst]

Originally Posted by rhoyaltempest

I understand your point but I guess the easiest way to respond would be to say that people like to help the communities in which they live or grew up in, especially if that community is in dire need of assistance. The community in which I grew up in for example, is in great need so I am always thinking of the people there when it comes to planning service projects and volunteering my time. Now if there are Whites, Latinos, and others who are now living there also and they are around when we are serving others, we wouldn't even think about turning them away just because they're not Black.

OK, I better see where you're coming from; I guess it's just that throughout my childhood I lived in an integrated neighborhood, went to an integrated high school (that was originally--as well as now currently a predominately Black high school--it was integrated from 1982-96).

My point is that when I grew up, while I dealt with my share of bigots and racists, for the most part everyone got along with everyone. I didn't even know about the sociological problems involving Black people until high school--which was beginning the whole Africentric movement that looking back, I wish in some respects I didn't learn about. But I digress.

I am highly pro-diversity (not tokenism, but true diversity), hence my posts in the caliber they were presented.

[rhoyaltempest]

Originally Posted by KAPital PHINUst

OK, I better see where you're coming from; I guess it's just that throughout my childhood I lived in an integrated neighborhood, went to an integrated high school (that was originally--as well as now currently a predominately Black high school--it was integrated from 1982-96).

My point is that when I grew up, while I dealt with my share of bigots and racists, for the most part everyone got along with everyone. I didn't even know about the sociological problems involving Black people until high school--which was beginning the whole Africentric movement that looking back, I wish in some respects I didn't learn about. But I digress.

I am highly pro-diversity (not tokenism, but true diversity), hence my posts in the caliber they were presented.

Regarding the bolded text, it really saddens me to read this even though it doesn't look like you want to go into this topic (you can PM me if you wish), but I'm curious as to why you would feel such a way. Your heritage and history (not just in America, but in the African diaspora) should inspire, motivate, and uplift you, not make you feel as if you can't embrace diversity or other cultures. You learned what you learned about Black peoples because you needed to and you probably need to know more, regardless of how and where you grew up. I moved around a lot as a child so I've lived in Black, mixed, and predominently White communities. I've lived among the lower, middle, and upper middle classes and never once did I want NOT to know my history. I feel that this is the major problem in the Black community right now, from which all other problems stem. It's so important for our people and our children especially, to know who they are and from whence they came. If you truly know WHO you are (and I'm not talking about any militant type thinking), you will be more than comfortable in embracing people of all races and cultures because you will not be so insecure and envious of others. It is because of what I know about myself that I can feel free to embrace anyone despite the many incidents I've had fighting racism in the various communities in which I've lived. Yes, ignorance is bliss but it doesn't solve anything. Knowledge of self is the key, not the problem.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by rhoyaltempest

Regarding the bolded text, it really saddens me to read this even though it doesn't look like you want to go into this topic (you can PM me if you wish), but I'm curious as to why you would feel such a way. Your heritage and history (not just in America, but in the African diaspora) should inspire, motivate, and uplift you, not make you feel as if you can't embrace diversity or other cultures. You learned what you learned about Black peoples because you needed to and you probably need to know more, regardless of how and where you grew up. I moved around a lot as a child so I've lived in Black, mixed, and predominently White communities. I've lived among the lower, middle, and upper middle classes and never once did I want NOT to know my history. I feel that this is the major problem in the Black community right now, from which all other problems stem. It's so important for our people and our children especially, to know who they are and from whence they came. If you truly know WHO you are (and I'm not talking about any militant type thinking), you will be more than comfortable in embracing people of all races and cultures because you will not be so insecure and envious of others. It is because of what I know about myself that I can feel free to embrace anyone despite the many incidents I've had fighting racism in the various communities in which I've lived. Yes, ignorance is bliss but it doesn't solve anything. Knowledge of self is the key, not the problem.

veyr excellent point which is why we all regardless of our affiliations need to make sure we take care of HOME first...we have to show that there are positive role models as opposed to what they are fed thru the media...off on a tangent...it hurts everytime I hear about a hazing incident because kids coming into college...that's all they know...and thats the first question they ask and stya hemmed on when they want to join....I hate it when I don't hear positive stories, like XYZ org gave X amount of dollars in scholarships...but them we live in a time when if it ain't bad news it won't make news....we have to be the facilitators of change and upliftment so that others can see where we are going and if so, choose to continue positive change.

[rhoyaltempest]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

veyr excellent point which is why we all regardless of our affiliations need to make sure we take care of HOME first...we have to show that there are positive role models as opposed to what they are fed thru the media...off on a tangent...it hurts everytime I hear about a hazing incident because kids coming into college...that's all they know...and thats the first question they ask and stya hemmed on when they want to join....I hate it when I don't hear positive stories, like XYZ org gave X amount of dollars in scholarships...but them we live in a time when if it ain't bad news it won't make news....we have to be the facilitators of change and upliftment so that others can see where we are going and if so, choose to continue positive change.

Yeah, this saddens me too, especially when hazing incidents (not that there should be any) are far and few in between compared to the many chapters we all have in the NPHC and all the great things we do like the many education scholarships, for example, that my sorority hands out every year. But like you said, good news is boring I guess.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by rhoyaltempest

Yeah, this saddens me too, especially when hazing incidents (not that there should be any) are far and few in between compared to the many chapters we all have in the NPHC and all the great things we do like the many education scholarships, for example, that my sorority hands out every year. But like you said, good news is boring I guess.

I tell ya this much...what got my attention was DST's response to Don Imus awhile ago....I was like...dayum that was swift....if more groups and orgs could get that kind of press (and this is not to say that no one didn't say anything!!) when standing up for what's wrong in the world then others could see that we all are watching what happens to us and our communities

[rhoyaltempest]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

I tell ya this much...what got my attention was DST's response to Don Imus awhile ago....I was like...dayum that was swift....if more groups and orgs could get that kind of press (and this is not to say that no one didn't say anything!!) when standing up for what's wrong in the world then others could see that we all are watching what happens to us and our communities

Yeah, many of us came together on this one. See the following: http://www.sgrho1922.org/pdf/BWA_07_...ent_final2.pdf

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by rhoyaltempest

I understand your point but I guess the easiest way to respond would be to say that people like to help the communities in which they live or grew up in, especially if that community is in dire need of assistance. The community in which I grew up in for example, is in great need so I am always thinking of the people there when it comes to planning service projects and volunteering my time. Now if there are Whites, Latinos, and others who are now living there also and they are around when we are serving others, we wouldn't even think about turning them away just because they're not Black.

Very good point.....