Anti-rape condom?

[DeltAlum]

Originally Posted by Dionysus

I agree with you both.

I do as well.

[GeekyPenguin]

There was an article (well, really a blurb) on this in a Cosmo or Glamour sometime last year.

[NinjaPoodle]

Well, I think that although it may not be perfect, I'd rather have this than be raped and are there any other alternatives being offered in comparison with this? Honestly, it sounds like the person asking the question is siding with the rapist in sympathy. Are you kidding me? You violate me, you will get yours. Period.

Now that I think of it, there are countries where women are raped all of the time with no consequence to the men. I'd bet they'd think twice if those women were able to use this or something like it.

What is your response to the few negative responses to RAPEX? (Question to Sonet Ehlers – inventor)
“As with everything in life there will be negative attitudes and I can't be responsible for people who refuse to educate men and feel the device is medieval”. “A medieval device for a medieval deed”!

Love this statement^^

[James]

It sounds more like a ploy to really sensitize women to the idea that all men are rapists.

Or potential rapists. Makes me wonder about the authors radical feminist political viewpoints.

[NinjaPoodle]

Originally Posted by James

It sounds more like a ploy to really sensitize women to the idea that all men are rapists.

Or potential rapists. Makes me wonder about the authors radical feminist political viewpoints.

Good point

[AlethiaSi]

Originally Posted by James

It sounds more like a ploy to really sensitize women to the idea that all men are rapists.

Or potential rapists. Makes me wonder about the authors radical feminist political viewpoints.

Oh. so this is where you were getting your rant from last night....
i understand what you are saying, however, there are a number of men out there who do violate women, and abuse them (verbally, sexually, physically) and women have a responsibility to protect themselves. chivalry is just about dead and everything that goes along with it, and women need to be aware of their surroundings and be smart about the situations they put themselves into.

I am a feminist, but I also think that we teach people how to treat us (to quote dr. phil ) and in so many situations men and women allow themselves to get stepped on (myself definately included.... ) and its a process to learn how to keep this from happening....


HOWEVER

there are a great many victims, regardless of what they have done or not done and this is still an awful fact.

so... in conclusion, i think the availability of such a device could potentially help some but could also could be used in such a way that is detrimental to others (that don't deserve it).

[KSig RC]

Originally Posted by AlethiaSi

Oh. so this is where you were getting your rant from last night....
i understand what you are saying, however, there are a number of men out there who do violate women, and abuse them (verbally, sexually, physically) and women have a responsibility to protect themselves. chivalry is just about dead and everything that goes along with it, and women need to be aware of their surroundings and be smart about the situations they put themselves into.

"A number"?

Of course, chivalry and rape are about as related as asparagus and little league baseball . . . I do agree that women should be smart and protect themselves, but don't you feel that part of the feminist movement is moving beyond a state of fear and subservient, second-class status (such as, say, being fearful of all men and all situations, and instead fostering an environment of equality, safety and respect)?

Originally Posted by AlethiaSi

I am a feminist, but I also think that we teach people how to treat us (to quote dr. phil ) and in so many situations men and women allow themselves to get stepped on (myself definately included.... ) and its a process to learn how to keep this from happening....

Sometimes, we teach people how to treat us (although Dr. Phil's advice, while generally correct in a tautological sense, is usually blathering drivel). Sometimes, people are taken advantage of. Women don't get to choose - they do, however, get to choose the environment they foster. An environment with razor blades in their vaginas does not scream 'positive' to me.

Originally Posted by AlethiaSi

HOWEVER

there are a great many victims, regardless of what they have done or not done and this is still an awful fact.

so... in conclusion, i think the availability of such a device could potentially help some but could also could be used in such a way that is detrimental to others (that don't deserve it).

So . . . in conclusion, you have no conclusion?

This is just a horrible idea on every level - even on the 'philosophical' level you wanted to bring it to. Who would it help? Seriously, who?

Piggybacking the majority - THE RAPE (AND VIOLATION) HAS ALREADY HAPPENED BY THE TIME RAZOR MEETS PENIS.

Rape, while a sex crime, is not a crime that is about sex - and the victim's subsequent issues are not really related to sex specifically, but rather violation. How are these problems obviated? This is even beyond the reality of "rapist punches woman in the face" in the case of violent rape . . . and for acquaintance rape, well, walking around with the anti-rape condom seems like a poor substitute for a healthy living environment, but I'm no Dr. Phil.

[OneTimeSBX]

seems a bit like a punishment from the very start. would i want my rapist to suffer? sure do! but not like that...i would want him off the streets, in jail, etc. Maiming his "cash and prizes" isnt gonna stop the truly sick ones (pretty much all of them) because rape isnt about sex, it is about power. they are gonna start groping around checking for it first and then continue. they will get injured, be super upset, and keep at it. i dont think it will stop anything.

ladies, do like i did. mace, taser, 9 mm. i can do a lot more damage than some anti-rape condom...

[Drolefille]

The problem is, by the time this is brought into action, you've already been raped. There's penetration. And, if this becomes commonly used, guys will simply rape a girl with a stick to remove the condom and then rape her themselves.

If this induced pain in the rapist while you were still standing and in a position to run... Great. But it doesn't. By this point you've been knocked down, probably injured, and you're not going to be able to jump up and GTFO to safety as quickly. So then, your condom has injured the rapist and is causing him pain, but that's not necessarily going to stop him... Now you have an angry rapist who feels the need to get back in power over you. I really really don't want a woman to ever be in that situation. It is dangerous.

And, I don't think this is training women to be anti-male any more than carrying mace is. (Note, mace is something that you use while still standing and able to run, and is probably more immediately incapacitating.) I just think it's a really stupid idea.

[Kevin]

I'm concerned about the bad faith use of this thing. My fear is that in the minds of jurors, the device creates a presumption of non-consent. It very well could be the case that a woman "consents" to sex merely to frame a man for rape.

The prosecution would be delighted to use this device as "Exhibit A." Who is going to believe the guy that the sex was consensual if the woman had this device and had not removed it?