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Old 05-14-2007, 02:14 PM
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If white people only had an inking of the distrust and ambivalence that is a part of cross racial interactions due to the effluence of the legacy of white supremecy in this country. All the jargon about freedom and equality doesn't change the power differentials that are in play in all kinds of social, economic and political interchanges. Africam Americans are very sensitive to this and see certain institutions as bulwarks against the negative intrusion of white power and influence into their sphere of influence. In my experience this explains some of the ambivalence about whites in BGLOs. And, in my own experience, in my fraternity, I think there is a sense in which there is more acceptance of non-black "minority" members, ie, a sort of acknowledgment of "minority" status which gives one more credibility than if one was caucasian. Personally, I believe in inclusive membership, but to assert that there's a racial double standard if some blacks question white membership, needs to be nuanced and contextualized before that label is affixed to these attitudes.

An analogy would be how some in other parts of the world have negative or ambivalent feelings towards America and Americans. We see ourselves in terms of our ideology of freedom and democracy, while others experience of us is more in terms of the "imperialistic" influence of our economic, political and cultural power.
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Old 05-14-2007, 02:18 PM
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So you're basically saying that it is your belief that predominantly white fraternitites/sororities only accept minorities into their organization because they feel they need to fill a quota or just so they can say they include all people? You don't believe there are any predominantly white fraternities/sororities that accept minorities because of what they contribute to the organization or because the white members truly believe that the person in question has a lot to offer? That's what I'm getting from your statement.
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Old 05-14-2007, 02:33 PM
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Pas de tout! I don't even understand your reply, if you are addressing my post. I was specifically addressing some attitudes expressed in this thread and hopefully trying to bring some clarity to this sentiments expressed, that to automatically to label them "racist" may not be totally accurate; there more to it than that, it'a more complicated than what can parse from the words. They have to be put in their proper socio-historical context. It's about understanding and shedding light.

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So you're basically saying that it is your belief that predominantly white fraternitites/sororities only accept minorities into their organization because they feel they need to fill a quota or just so they can say they include all people? You don't believe there are any predominantly white fraternities/sororities that accept minorities because of what they contribute to the organization or because the white members truly believe that the person in question has a lot to offer? That's what I'm getting from your statement.
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Old 05-14-2007, 02:36 PM
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I understood credibility to be the underlying issue...
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Old 05-14-2007, 02:44 PM
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Unwittingly, you've made my point! Thanks. Nuff said.

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I understood credibility to be the underlying issue...
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Old 05-14-2007, 02:47 PM
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credibility is open to interpretation...someone's credibility is not set in stone just because of one person's opinion...that would be faulty rhetoric
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Old 05-14-2007, 03:13 PM
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Black greek organizations and white greek organizations are still very segregated, which is unfortunate. My fraternity was founded based on "Achievement". Our Founding Fathers specifically said that it didn't matter what race, or religion a man was/is even though Kappa Alpha Psi was founded on Christain beliefs. I joined this fraternity, so I have to stick with what the founders said. It doesn't matter, as long as the member will make the fraternity better than what it is. Me personally, I wouldn't join a WGLO because I find them quite boring, and also because some of the things they do don't fit me. Still, I would never discourage a white man from joining my fraternity and becoming my brother.

Of course, unless I didn't like his character.
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