White men in NPHC

[L.O.C.K.]

Every organization has bigots and people who are against "outsiders" joining - regardless if they are NIC, NPC, NPHC, NALFO, NAPA, NMGC, etc, etc.

Do you have to work harder to prove yourself as "worthy" as a non-minority in a minority organization? Depends on the chapter. However, from personal experience, people will question your reason for joining a predominatly-Asian/Black/Latino/a organization.

Why? Well, these organizations are designed to serve specific communities unlike NPC/NIC orgs which are not "race/ethnic-specific". It is natural for people to wonder.

However, when deciding whether or not someone is qualified for an organization, race shouldn't matter. What matters is if they are going to uphold your Four Pillars or 5 Point Thrust or whatever the core ideals of each organization are. If they live the mission set out by the Founders, then that is what matters.

[Laak 315]

Originally Posted by L.O.C.K.

However, when deciding whether or not someone is qualified for an organization, race shouldn't matter. What matters is if they are going to uphold your Four Pillars or 5 Point Thrust or whatever the core ideals of each organization are. If they live the mission set out by the Founders, then that is what matters.

That's exactly what I am trying to say...race should not be an issue...but very clearly from the above posts, it is very prevalent in how these certain fraternities/sororities recruit their members...

[DSTRen13]

Originally Posted by Laak 315

That's exactly what I am trying to say...race should not be an issue...but very clearly from the above posts, it is very prevalent in how these certain fraternities/sororities recruit their members...

But we don't recruit members. As AKA_Monet said earlier, this is a very important thing that you have to understand when you're looking at this issue. BGLOs, and most AGLOs, LGLOs, etc., do not actively recruit members. If you are interested in membership, you seek them, rather than, as with NPC and IFC groups, the orgs seeking you.

[Laak 315]

Originally Posted by DSTRen13

But we don't recruit members. As AKA_Monet said earlier, this is a very important thing that you have to understand when you're looking at this issue. BGLOs, and most AGLOs, LGLOs, etc., do not actively recruit members. If you are interested in membership, you seek them, rather than, as with NPC and IFC groups, the orgs seeking you.

So then why is it so hard for these organizations to accept the fact that someone of another race wishes to be a part of them if it is the person seeking out the organization and not the other way around. If anything, it almost seems like these organizations should be somewhat flattered (maybe that's not the right word, but I can't think of a better one right now) that a person of a different race wishes to join their organization. That person obviously doesn't have a problem with diversity, whereas the organizations that push that person away simply because of their race very obviously have a problem with diversity.

[starang21]

Originally Posted by Laak 315

So then why is it so hard for these organizations to accept the fact that someone of another race wishes to be a part of them if it is the person seeking out the organization and not the other way around. If anything, it almost seems like these organizations should be somewhat flattered (maybe that's not the right word, but I can't think of a better one right now) that a person of a different race wishes to join their organization. That person obviously doesn't have a problem with diversity, whereas the organizations that push that person away simply because of their race very obviously have a problem with diversity.

so? why are you so invested in how a private organization handles it's membership selection? who are you to tell someone how they should operate and how their protocol should be handled?

so you think that because someone non-black wants to join a BGLO that it's black members should jump up for joy and be flattered?

well golly gee willikers, billy.

[Laak 315]

Originally Posted by starang21

well golly gee willikers, billy.

my name's not billy, but it's a decent guess I suppose...

[KAPital PHINUst]

Originally Posted by Laak 315

my name's not billy, but it's a decent guess I suppose...

Laak, please take Starang's posts with a grain of salt; he is accustomed to making personal attacks on people who doesn't agree with his viewpoints.

[KAPital PHINUst]

Originally Posted by DSTRen13

But we don't recruit members.

Actually, yes we do, albeit not in the formal sense of the word.

[Laak 315]

if you do not formally recruit, what does the recruitment process entail?

[KAPital PHINUst]

Originally Posted by Laak 315

if you do not formally recruit, what does the recruitment process entail?

In the sense that we do not seek out individuals to join our orgs, we do not recruit. But in the sense that we expose ourselves to the public via community and campus-based service projects, we recruit.

[ShamikaT]

Someone deleted my post.

[Laak 315]

gotcha.