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Old 05-11-2007, 07:36 AM
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Dever, all your points are true. For #2 and #3, it is a little different from where we came from.

The reality is that some chapters, like ours, just will never fit the national mold or image. That is why I will always be a big supporter of regional offices, and dismante HQ to just a leadership board, and give the power to the area offices.
Theres a reason the confederate government didn't work, a lack of a strong central government along with a bunch of states doing whatever they wanted and no way to enforce it. Regional offices would be nice, and perhaps may or may not give chapters more face time. Thing with regional offices is that how many do you expect they have? 1 for each state, 1 for each of the main US regions like the judicial system? I still think you would have the same problems if not more with that plan. Regional offices would mean fewer people on staff because of obvious budgetary problems, I have a feeling it would just make things worse. All that and the fact that it would take years to convert. You think nationals moves slow now? Wait till they are trying to setup a bunch of regional governments and continue with daily business.

Sorry for focusing on just one of your points. As far as the other stuff goes I can totally relate, there seemed to be quarters where nationals was about ready to give up on us and there was the sentiment that they outright didn't like us because of past transgressions well before I was alive. I talked to my ELC recently and he kinda set me straight on the whole issue. Basically he figures the turnover policy at nationals is just that, by the time you are halfway through college there are already all new faces on staff for the most part. Some positions this is not true for of course. Perhaps you got a bad few years, and I cant say that you didn't because you were there I wasn't. Perhaps this is me being optimistic for the future, maybe because my young age and lack of experience.

I can also relate to your problem with the national image, in the opposite way. Ohio State is very much the national image, perhaps we are not? We have always had that problem I suppose. Thats a lot of the appeal I had joining, we just weren't the average fraternity.

Different for everyone I guess. I have seen support drastically increase since Ive been here, and thats just personally. A lot of it is because I actively go look for support, I can't badmouth nationals as long as they have been supportive of everything since I have been asking.
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Old 05-11-2007, 09:51 AM
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Yeah, regional offices is a dream of mine. Imagine having 3-5 full time staffers just servicing chapters in the Northeast? They would know the chapters and their needs.

"they outright didn't like us because of past transgressions well before I was alive"

Don't fool yourself. HQ has and does hold grudges. Even though there is a high turnover rate, the grudges and prejudice get passed down from master to apprentice for many employment generations. People talk and gossip. Someone who has a personal agenda can easily defame a chapter while hanging around the water cooler to compensate...

Of course the ELC wouldn't admit it. That's like asking David Duke to give you a history lesson. (this is not to imply anything racist, simply to illustrate the point that their reasons and answers may be skewed and not unbiased.)
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Old 05-11-2007, 10:34 AM
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Yeah, regional offices is a dream of mine. Imagine having 3-5 full time staffers just servicing chapters in the Northeast? They would know the chapters and their needs.

"they outright didn't like us because of past transgressions well before I was alive"

Don't fool yourself. HQ has and does hold grudges. Even though there is a high turnover rate, the grudges and prejudice get passed down from master to apprentice for many employment generations. People talk and gossip. Someone who has a personal agenda can easily defame a chapter while hanging around the water cooler to compensate...

Of course the ELC wouldn't admit it. That's like asking David Duke to give you a history lesson. (this is not to imply anything racist, simply to illustrate the point that their reasons and answers may be skewed and not unbiased.)
We all should bury the hatchet then. Find someone to put up the money for 255,000 shots of Jamison and we can make a toast.
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Old 05-11-2007, 10:45 AM
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Yeah, I wish it were that simple. I should have also mentioned that it is a two way street. Some chapters just don't trust HQ as well.

We're all human, it's going to happen.
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