Conduct Becoming of A Sorority Girl

[ΑΓΔSquirrelGirl]

Originally Posted by AOII Angel

I love how reasonable debates get turned into soap boxes for people who can't see past their own ideas. Anyway, I find it completely disingenuous that you think image is nothing, 33 girl. You keep harping on these little, inconsequential rules that I mentioned which I already stated will not get you kicked out. It's not about being superior to others. It's about not thinking yourself above rules you agreed to follow. What if you decided that you don't need to go to your chapter's mandatory study hour? I personally think it is stupid to require adult women to study at a set time. My chapter didn't do study hours. What if you didn't want to wear the ugly, pink, polka-dot dress that the chapter voted in for a rush party? Can you just elect not to wear it? Why is image important? Image is everything in a sorority. See how many sisters you can intice when you have a bad reputation. Many closed chapters can answer that one for you. The rules I mentioned may be silly, but I guarantee that my drinking, smoking sisters didn't break them because the chapter meant more to them than exercising their rights to do what ever they wanted when they wanted. The real issue is making sure sisters follow the big rules. No....smoking in public does not make you a bad sister. My point was that people who continually break the rules (because the ones who are on the verge of being kicked out usually are this type) don't make good sisters.

If imagine were as important here as it is to you and if all five of our chapters were so uptight there wouldn't be ANY greeks here...

Your method doesn't work everywhere. In fact at my campus, for instance, it would be COMPLETELY detrimental to be so uptight and nitpicky.

[NutBrnHair]

Originally Posted by ΑΓΔSquirrelGirl

If imagine were as important here as it is to you and if all five of our chapters were so uptight there wouldn't be ANY greeks here...

I imagine that if you could spell image correctly it wouldn't reflect poorly on you or your group.

KIDDING! I'm only kidding.

[SWTXBelle]

Hey, it's not a good idea to eat while walking because of the risk of choking! Many child-rearing books point out this particular hazard, so for safety's sake, just stop walking for a minute while you are eating your whatever-on-a-stick.
Gum chewing is my personal pet peeve. I've seen bridesmaids chomping on it as they went up the aisle - and a friend swears she saw an actual bride chewing as she made her way down the aisle. I can't tell you how many times my children have stepped in someone's discarded gum in a parking lot - and as a teacher, I hate finding it on the bottom of desks.
As I look around, it seems to me the problem with our society is not that too many people are concerned with following ANY rules. Nope - it's this "Me me me - whatever makes ME happy is okay" attitude that results in a general disregard for the welfare of others.

[AOII Angel]

I think it's very funny that you assume the groups on my campus were uptight or nit picky. We have rules....OH MY GOD!!! I had many sisters who would qualify as sluts by most people's standards, but they were discreet. I had a sister who broke her jaw after she was kicked in the face by a man who we all thought was selling her drugs. We didn't know for sure, but it wouldn't have surprised any of us. She didn't get kicked out....she was well liked and accepted. Nobody actually was kicked out of my chapter or any other chapter during the time I was a member. We all put up with a lot of crap, but if we started being known as the "sluts" or the "druggies" some heads would have rolled. But...that's my campus...and it did work. Maybe at your campus, squirrel, every chapter has their open sluts and crackheads so no one group is ostracized for it....more power to y'all, but THAT doesn't work at most campuses.

[FSUZeta]

jwithers,

honeychile is indeed a real person, who was raised properly by her southern mama. she is genteel and gracious-the epitome of a southern lady, even if she was raised in pittsburgh.

for instance, she would never tell a fellow gcer, especially one relatively new to the forum, how crass and ridiculous her post was. that would be too, too tacky for words.

[aopirose]

Originally Posted by FSUZeta

jwithers,

honeychile is indeed a real person, who was raised properly by her southern mama. she is genteel and gracious-the epitome of a southern lady, even if she was raised in pittsburgh.

for instance, she would never tell a fellow gcer, especially one relatively new to the forum, how crass and ridiculous her post was. that would be too, too tacky for words.

Too true.

[JWithers]

Originally Posted by FSUZeta

jwithers,

honeychile is indeed a real person, who was raised properly by her southern mama. she is genteel and gracious-the epitome of a southern lady, even if she was raised in Pittsburgh.

for instance, she would never tell a fellow gcer, especially one relatively new to the forum, how crass and ridiculous her post was. that would be too, too tacky for words.

Ahhhh Pittsburgh. That might account for the affected syntax with which she posts. It is offensive to real Southerners and well, just 'icky'. No one I know speaks that way unless they are auditioning for an antebellum role in a movie.

And as for St. Cecilia's....yes, my mother was rather ridiculous in her ideas of proper behavior, but she was also St. Cecilia's 1952. She stuck to her guns, but Lord have mercy, she was from another era.

Thanks for the clarification. It helps me to understand a great deal more. It is still horrifically affected, but, I imagine, in imitation of her mother and not in mockery of the South.

Tacky is as tacky does. And posing is always tackier than exposing said poseur. Call me tacky but I am not pretending to Southern aristocracy. I am the real thing, sugar.

Glad to know honeychile is innocent in her affectedness.

[SWTXBelle]

To quote Miss Manners (Judith Martin) -

Miss Manners is constantly besieged by people who want to know the tactful manner of pointing out their friends' and relatives' inferiorities. . . The answer is that they cannot, certainly not politely. . . Even if it be proven that the mistakes of others come from gross ignorance or from maliciousness, it is not the place of anyone except God, their mothers or Miss Manners to bring this to their attention. As dear Erasmus said, "It is part of the highest civility if, while never erring yourself, you ignore the errors of others."

ETA - unless, of course, you are on standards . . . (!!)

[ΑΓΔSquirrelGirl]

Originally Posted by AOII Angel

I think it's very funny that you assume the groups on my campus were uptight or nit picky. We have rules....OH MY GOD!!! I had many sisters who would qualify as sluts by most people's standards, but they were discreet. I had a sister who broke her jaw after she was kicked in the face by a man who we all thought was selling her drugs. We didn't know for sure, but it wouldn't have surprised any of us. She didn't get kicked out....she was well liked and accepted. Nobody actually was kicked out of my chapter or any other chapter during the time I was a member. We all put up with a lot of crap, but if we started being known as the "sluts" or the "druggies" some heads would have rolled. But...that's my campus...and it did work. Maybe at your campus, squirrel, every chapter has their open sluts and crackheads so no one group is ostracized for it....more power to y'all, but THAT doesn't work at most campuses.

Yes, it's nitpicky in my opinion. It just seems like there's a contradiction...it's so INCREDIBLY important not to (gasp for air at the audacity) drink on the dance floor but I mean...possible drug dealing relations? Eh...we'll let it go. You are making an incredibly inconsistent arguement...at first it was all about image and now you claim to have possible drug relations and "discreet" sluts (the truth is, it's never discreet if anyone knows but the two involved). So why in the world worry about a drink on a dance floor? I mean really...that's really ridiculous...if image is so important that you couldn't get a pledge class if a sister held a drink while dancing or smoked without crossing her legs or something I suggest re-evaluating.

Don't bother acting all offended...sorry but I do and will think the logic here (or lack thereof) is baffling. No, on my campus I doubt open crackheads would work (personally I've never met one) and yes, every chapter has at least A hobag...and as it's college, so does every chapter everywhere.
I just thank the lord we're lookin' out for something besides nitpicky rules...respecting letters is one thing, this is another. Rules, written or not, about things deemed by the MAJORITY of society to be immoral are reasonable, as are rules regarding respect towards letters. I guess you have problems differentiating but I assure you, those sorts of rules and a list of rules regarding your every movement on campus (and of course image is everything...that's why it makes total sense that you would completely just go down the drain if you drink on the dance floor...but I mean drugs and sluts are cool...just not like, holding your cigarette in the wrong hand while you cross your legs the other way...) are different. The logic does not follow.

I guess we're just more about sisterhood here, so I don't understand chapters like that. I am grateful even more for the five here...no one has to change themselves as a person to fit in because "image is everything"...I think we're all more interested in fun, being ourselves, and companionship. The kind of greek system in which image (however contradictory the definition is) is more important than sisterhood is one I do not want to be associated with.

[SWTXBelle]

Some people just don't get it.