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05-09-2007, 05:47 PM
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I'm sorry if I've offended you 33girl. You may not find smoking a problem, but many find it to be a dirty habit which is often inflicted on those who do not smoke. I have no problem with smokers who are considerate of others. Pick up you cigarette butts and don't pollute an enclosed room. The culture of the campus dictates many of these rules. Sigma Kappa who is no longer on our campus actually required members to be sitting to smoke. Girls would go sit on the toilet in bars in order to smoke. Pretty funny if you ask me, but it's their rule. The drinking while dancing issue may seem silly to you, but it is very unladylike to slosh your drink around while dancing...possibly soiling someone else's clothes or shoes. Don't tell me that you have infinite control of the path of spilled alcohol from you glass as you swing around in a tipsy haze after one too many. The average college student would not. Lastly, if your sorority's creed or ritual has not changed you or made you more aware of you actions, then what is the point? Sororities are for a lifetime not because they give you a steady stream of drinking and smoking buddies but because they teach you to live by a standard. These standards may not specifically address drinking and smoking, but I'm quite sure most address presenting a good example to others, being considerate of your fellow man and not reflecting poorly on yourself or your organization. My sorority taught me that your actions reflect your character. You never have a second chance to make that first impression. Just like actives are always watching rushees to catch them slip...rushees and the rest of the world are watching you.
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05-10-2007, 09:52 AM
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The culture of the campus dictates many of these rules.
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Yes. Thank you. That's what I'm saying. Don't confuse campus culture or etiquette with the values and aims written in your sorority's NATIONAL bylaws, or even your chapter bylaws for that matter. So many people come on here and say "we're not allowed to drink or smoke in letters" and then when they actually look in their chapter or national bylaws, voila, this "ironclad rule" is nowhere to be found. It's something more ambiguous like "present a good image." That varies WIDELY from place to place.
Do whatever you do on your campus, that's cool, but I think to be so severe as to call someone a "bad sister" if she doesn't follow these rules is a bit silly.
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05-10-2007, 01:03 PM
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Yes. Thank you. That's what I'm saying. Don't confuse campus culture or etiquette with the values and aims written in your sorority's NATIONAL bylaws, or even your chapter bylaws for that matter. So many people come on here and say "we're not allowed to drink or smoke in letters" and then when they actually look in their chapter or national bylaws, voila, this "ironclad rule" is nowhere to be found. It's something more ambiguous like "present a good image." That varies WIDELY from place to place.
Do whatever you do on your campus, that's cool, but I think to be so severe as to call someone a "bad sister" if she doesn't follow these rules is a bit silly.
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Being judgemental probably isn't in the bylaws, either.
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05-10-2007, 01:08 PM
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Being judgemental probably isn't in the bylaws, either.
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I don't know if that's to me or to her, but I wasn't the one who said:
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Most girls who choose not to follow the rules of the chapter are not good sisters.
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05-10-2007, 01:13 PM
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I was agreeing w/ you - rampant gossip running through the sorority re: who's been tempted to pose in Playboy isn't really Conduct Becoming A Sorority Girl, either.
I think I'd rather be in the house w/ a couple girls who f* up now and then but generally accept each others' decisions than the house with the stellar rep who maintains it by talking s* about each other and their choices.
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05-10-2007, 01:26 PM
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I thought so, but you haven't been on in a while so I wanted to make sure your body hadn't been taken over by the Rules girls or something.
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05-10-2007, 01:30 PM
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Oh. Right! Also, girls who smoke AND WALK AT THE SAME TIME are whores.
Better?
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