Alpha Phi dies of alcohol poisioning at SDSU

[sdsuchelle]

[quote=Aphigal;1442917]

Originally Posted by sdsuchelle

*edit* I retract my statement, I was wrong -- she was found at her apartment. Somehow <edit> has been mixed into this but I'm not sure what the connection is yet... QUOTE]


I loooove <not the sarcasm in my voice> how you "retract saying anything against Sigma Chi" but you have not yet apologized to Alpha Phi for saying her sisters essentially left her to die.

Don't know what you have against Alpha Phi but certainly you couldn't wait to come and post about this young woman's death before you had your facts straight. Or from what it now appears any facts at all.

WHOA WHOA WHOA, I don't have anything against Alpha Phi, and I never said her sisters left her to die. With the information I had yesterday, it seemed sketchy, but now it doesn't.

Wow I swear, people on this board get waaaay too touchy. To assume I have something against Alpha Phi just because I posted a very relevant news story is pretty ridiculous. Chill out please.

On a different note, there is a news video here: http://www.cbs8.com/

Originally Posted by sdsuchelle

Obviously this is very saddening...<edit>

Any ideas on what kind of action will be taken against <edit>.

Originally Posted by sdsuchelle

WHOA WHOA WHOA, I don't have anything against Alpha Phi, and I never said her sisters left her to die. With the information I had yesterday, it seemed sketchy, but now it doesn't.

Wow I swear, people on this board get waaaay too touchy. To assume I have something against Alpha Phi just because I posted a very relevant news story is pretty ridiculous. Chill out please.

On a different note, there is a news video here: http://www.cbs8.com/

Judging from your first post, it really did seem like you were implying that her sisters didn't care because they were nowhere to be found. Aphigal had every right to respond to you the way she did.

Considering the tragedy of the situation, you really shouldn't tell people to chill out just because you don't like how they're replying to you. Just suck it up and accept the fact that you probably made a poor choice in reporting it when you didn't have your facts straight and move on.

[sdsuchelle]

K I didn't have my facts straight, the end.

PS: Everyone should note that reading into "implied" messages on the internet is going to get you nowhere. What you think a person meant is not always what they intended, ESPECIALLY on a message board.

[kddani]

Originally Posted by sdsuchelle

K I didn't have my facts straight, the end.

PS: Everyone should note that reading into "implied" messages on the internet is going to get you nowhere. What you think a person meant is not always what they intended, ESPECIALLY on a message board.

Then please, in the future, don't post about something to serious without having the facts. Unless you knew her directly, which it doesn't appear that you did, you were just posting rumors and gossip. Obviously you can see now how that tends to turn out.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by kddani

Then please, in the future, don't post about something to serious without having the facts. Unless you knew her directly, which it doesn't appear that you did, you were just posting rumors and gossip. Obviously you can see now how that tends to turn out.

Agreed, and let me add to that -- if someone ever suspects inaccuracies/rumors being posted, please contact me ASAP so I can remove the offending material. I realize it's not necessarily against the TOS, but we want GC to do more good than harm, right?

ETA:

Pursuant to a very reasonable request, I have gone through this thread and removed just about any fact which was either known to be false, or was at this juncture only a rumor. As a matter of policy, please refrain from posting things in serious threads such as this unless you know those things to be true.

I will try to stay on top of things, but if anyone sees anything which is either not true or at this point unsubstantiated, please inform me ASAP. Let's just make sure GC doesn't get any rumors started which may end up in investigations/consequences for innocent parties.

[TSteven]

Originally Posted by Kevin

Agreed, and let me add to that -- if someone ever suspects inaccuracies/rumors being posted, please contact me ASAP so I can remove the offending material. I realize it's not necessarily against the TOS, but we want GC to do more good than harm, right?

ETA:

Pursuant to a very reasonable request, I have gone through this thread and removed just about any fact which was either known to be false, or was at this juncture only a rumor. As a matter of policy, please refrain from posting things in serious threads such as this unless you know those things to be true.

I will try to stay on top of things, but if anyone sees anything which is either not true or at this point unsubstantiated, please inform me ASAP. Let's just make sure GC doesn't get any rumors started which may end up in investigations/consequences for innocent parties.

Thanks.

[susan314]

Originally Posted by OTW

Judging from your first post, it really did seem like you were implying that her sisters didn't care because they were nowhere to be found. Aphigal had every right to respond to you the way she did.

I totally didn't take her first post that way at all, though perhaps it could have been worded differently to get that point across. I can see where someone who is an Alpha Phi might read more into the post than what I suspect the OP intended (I might have done the same thing myself if it had been Alpha Gam instead - lots of us tend to be more sensitive to what we perceive as criticism of our own organization/sisters).

But, as a somewhat neutral bystander, I didn't get the feeling that the OP meant her original post as an indictment of the Alpha Phi sisters or that she had some sort of hatred for Alpha Phi - more the type of frustration that one might vent in that sort of situation, when thinking about things that anyone could have done differently to prevent the tragedy.

[sdsuchelle]

THANK YOU Susan! Exactly.

Anyway can we get back to the topic instead of picking apart my words? That would be great.

It seems like SDSU has a lot of alcohol poisioning/accident deaths occur... the school seems to turn a blind eye, and I really think students (not just greeks) need more education on binge drinking dangers.

[bejazd]

It seems like SDSU has a lot of alcohol poisioning/accident deaths occur... the school seems to turn a blind eye, and I really think students (not just greeks) need more education on binge drinking dangers.[/quote]


Does the school really turn a blind eye or is there just a limit to what they can reasonably do to prevent students from willingly participating in alcohol abuse? ( I am not speaking about this particular individual. The local news has only reported that the death is under investigation. )
The school has over 25K undergrads...most are well over 21, and it's primarily a commuter campus. Students who live in the dorms tend to be younger, but they don't usually live there for more than a year or two. A very small percentage of students actually live in greek housing at SDSU...it's far more popular to live in off campus apts, mini-dorms or out at the beach. SDSUChelle, do you know if all new students must participate in the substance abuse prevention program or just the greeks?

I'm terribly sad for this young woman, her family and Alpha Phi. Alpha Phi at SDSU has an excellent reputation.

[sdsuchelle]

To my knowledge only greeks participate in substance abuse prevention programs, but I never lived in the dorms so I don't know if they are required to also. However, when I was a new member with ADPi, I honestly can't remember being required to attend any type of event centered around substance abuse... then again I could have missed it.

Since SDSU is such a commuter campus, it seems important to educate ALL students on the dangers of binge drinking... even if it's as simple as putting more articles in the Daily Aztec, holding rallies, putting up posters... whatever. It's not just the dorm kids who drink a lot, but a lot of commuters come to the area on the weekends looking for parties.

*edit* The Daily Aztec has a new article about Jenny's death: http://media.www.thedailyaztec.com/m...-2897997.shtml. They're reporting that she had attended Alpha Phi's formal on Saturday night before she died.

Poliakoff, who many called "Jenny," returned to her apartment on May 6 after attending her sorority's formal the previous night. At about 9:40 a.m., Poliakoff's brother, who lived with her in the apartment, found her dead in her bedroom, University Police Lt. Robert McManus said.

The chapter dispatched two regional officers who arrived in San Diego on May 6. The officers and Alpha Phi International officials will work with the chapter and its members to provide whatever support may be necessary, Doug Case, the coordinator for the Center for Fraternity and Sorority Life, said in a statement.

"Their (Alpha Phi) national has instructed them not to talk about this," Case said. "Once they have a more definitive cause of death, they will release that."

Alpha Phi has pledged to the university that it will cooperate in any investigation of the circumstances surrounding Poliakoff's death, Case said.

[queenofpink]

This is my first time on GreekChat, but I was searching for Jenny's name on google and came upon this site. I am go to SDSU, and am in another sorority here at state. I have a few friends who are in APhi, who live in Jenny's apartment complex, and they have filled me in on what really happened earlier that day/night of her death.
<EDIT> linked to the story because they had their annual <EDIT> , where Jenny had been drinking <EDIT>. Later that evening <EDIT>, and after she had sobered up, she thought it would be alright to <EDIT> continue drinking at the dance. When she got back to her apartment with her friends she continued to drink, and she had apparently gotten too drunk <EDIT>. The next morning my friends woke up to Jenny's brother screaming about how she was blue and stiff. She was long gone, no ambulence or fire trucks came, they just took her away because it was far too late to revive her.
This is just what I have heard from my friends, the autopsy results were supposed to be in by yesterday, but we'll see when they are actually released to find out what the real reason of her death was.
Anyway, it's a horribly tragic occurence and it has affected everyone in the Greek system here at SDSU.