Greek Splinters Groups?

[Xidelt]

At St. Lawrence University (northern new york state), there is an independent sorority called Kappa Delta Sigma. According to the history page on their web site, they used to be a chapter of Kappa Delta, but turned in their charter in 1969 and became local in response to the white-only membership clause that many GLOs had at the time. It seems that they wanted to rush and pledge a minority member and their HQ at the time would not allow it.

[g41965]

This is as good a list of Delta Upsilon splinter groups as I have.

Vermont Delta Psi. DU chapter 1850-1854 closed 2004 hazing
Harvard DU Club DU Chapter 1881-1942 The Oak Club DU Chapter 1999-2005 The Oak club is very active check out their website.
Bowdoin Delta Sigma DU Chapter 1892-1952 closed 1998 when college banned greeks.
Dartmouth Foley House DU chapter 1926-1966 still exists as a coop!
Amherst Delta Upsilon Delta DU chapter 1847-1969 closed 1984 when college removed greek system from campus.
Brown Kappa Delta Upsilon DU chapter 1868-1967, 1986-1991 closed 1996 when college removed chapter for arson and vandalism.
Wesleyan Omega Phi DU chapter 1919-1952 became Kappa Alpha Society 1967 closed early 1980s.
Union DU was underground for several years after charter recalled for hazing in 1995 status not known.
Syracuse DU was underground for several years after charter was recalled for hazing mid 1990's probably inactive as DU is recolonizing in fall 2007.
Shippensburgh State .DU chapter 1995 -2003. recolonized after going local in 2007.
Ripon Lambda Delta Alpha .DU chapter 1959-1984. inactive 2005. DU may revive in next few years.
Simpson Kappa Theta Psi, DU chapter 1964-1976, still active.
Cal Poly Alpha Upsilon ,DU chapter 1970-1973, returned in 1992.
Pacific Omega Phi Alpha ,DU chapter 1959-1973, returned in 2006.

[DUKyleXY]

What are the greek letter designations standing for? I recognize Vermont's as their founding societies letters, but Brown was Gamma Upsilon.

[DUKyleXY]

At Iowa State, we had a splinter in the beginnings of the 1900s. My fraternity, Delta Upsilon was founded by the Colonnades Club. Before the foundation, three groups split, at different times. In 1905 the Colonnades was founded, in 1908, the first faction split to become the Colonials because they did not want to be affiliated with a National GLO. In 1910, another group broke from the Colonnades to become the Palisades. From the Palisades, five men broke of to form El Paso Club in 1911. All four groups became affiliated with National GLOs.
--The Colonnades Club became the Iowa State Chapter of Delta Upsilon in 1913.
--The Colonials became Beta Deuteron Chapter of Theta Delta Chi in 1919; even though they had split from Colonnades because they didn't want to affiliate.
--The Palisades became the Phi Chapter of Alpha Sigma Phi in 1920.
--El Paso became the Beta Alpha Chapter of Delta Sigma Phi.

[KAPital PHINUst]

I know of 2 Alpha Phi Omega splinter groups:

Phi Rho Eta Fraternity (former members of Zeta Nu chapter - Southern Illinois University at Carbondale)

Theta Beta Phi Fraternity--no longer in existence (former members of Rho Omicron petitioning group - U. of Md. Eastern Shore; the longest lasting petitioning group--5 years until the group got tired of jumping through hoops in getting rechartered and and voted to disaffiliate; at the same time, the National Board voted to deem the group inactive; albeit independent of what the PG was doing and vice versa. So in a sense it was a mutual separation.

Theta Xi chapter (at a now-closed school in New Jersey) was merging with another school. The chapter at the closed school was all-male; the school it was merging with had a co-ed chapter. The all-male group did not want to merge with or lose it's all-male status, so it disaffiliated with APO and became a local social fraternity until it was later picked up as a chapter of.....THETA XI Fraternity.

Side note: I have a feeling with the new requirement that all chapters must be co-ed, there will be more splinter groups forming in Alpha Phi Omega very soon.

[Senusret I]

Originally Posted by KAPital PHINUst

Side note: I have a feeling with the new requirement that all chapters must be co-ed, there will be more splinter groups forming in Alpha Phi Omega very soon.

And if that happens, good for them.

[KAPital PHINUst]

Originally Posted by Senusret I

And if that happens, good for them.

Quite honestly, considering that Alpha Phi Omega devolved from a Scouting based fraternity to a Circle K-esque Greek letter club, for those remaining all-male constituency of brothers who splinter from the fold because they want a fraternal brotherhood and not an artificial version of such, I have to say GREAT for them. And this has been the case for at least the past 10 years (I have APO-L archived emails of discussion of this caliber coming from such brothers going back to the early 90s--PM me if you want the links).

This is coming from someone who's 15th anniversary of membership is TODAY but have no plans to celebrate or commemorate in any way, shape, form, or fashion.

[Senusret I]

Originally Posted by KAPital PHINUst

Quite honestly, considering that Alpha Phi Omega devolved from a Scouting based fraternity to a Circle K-esque Greek letter club--

Negro, PLEASE.

You have been to my campus and seen my chapter -- Circle K? Don't get it twisted, dude. As long as you've been a member you still haven't seen it ALL.

When's the last national convention you've been to?

[naraht]

Originally Posted by KAPital PHINUst

I know of 2 Alpha Phi Omega splinter groups:

Phi Rho Eta Fraternity (former members of Zeta Nu chapter - Southern Illinois University at Carbondale)

Yup. I think this group has had chapters Alpha, Beta, Gamma and Delta, but last I saw, Beta and Delta were inactive and Gamma was bringing back Alpha.

Originally Posted by KAPital PHINUst

Theta Beta Phi Fraternity--no longer in existence (former members of Rho Omicron petitioning group - U. of Md. Eastern Shore; the longest lasting petitioning group--5 years until the group got tired of jumping through hoops in getting rechartered and and voted to disaffiliate; at the same time, the National Board voted to deem the group inactive; albeit independent of what the PG was doing and vice versa. So in a sense it was a mutual separation.

It may have been five years from first interest to final separation, but they were only actually involved in the proper procedures for about 3 years. In fact this chapter may be single handedly responsible for the changes in procedure that put a maximum length on certain phases of the Petitioning Process. I have both sympathies and issues with both the group that was attempting to come on campus and the Regional Staff. I was at their PG ceremony and on sectional staff at the time.

Originally Posted by KAPital PHINUst

Theta Xi chapter (at a now-closed school in New Jersey) was merging with another school. The chapter at the closed school was all-male; the school it was merging with had a co-ed chapter. The all-male group did not want to merge with or lose it's all-male status, so it disaffiliated with APO and became a local social fraternity until it was later picked up as a chapter of.....THETA XI Fraternity.

Not New Jersey, Parks College of Saint Louis University (across the river in Illinois). Saint Louis University moved the aviation program (which was basically the entire school) back to the main campus and the all-male chapter at SLU-Parks wanted to merge in as a separate all-male family within Delta Delta chapter at SLU. This was not acceptable to the brothers of Delta Delta chapter and after much talking (The Region VIII director got involved), they decided to go their own way.

Originally Posted by KAPital PHINUst

Side note: I have a feeling with the new requirement that all chapters must be co-ed, there will be more splinter groups forming in Alpha Phi Omega very soon.

Possible. I've been keeping an eye out online.

Randy

[KAPital PHINUst]

Originally Posted by naraht

Yup. I think this group has had chapters Alpha, Beta, Gamma and Delta, but last I saw, Beta and Delta were inactive and Gamma was bringing back Alpha.

FWIW, Phi Rho Eta has been highly respected on the campuses they have been on, one chapter having a member who served as president of the local chapter's NPHC.

It may have been five years from first interest to final separation, but they were only actually involved in the proper procedures for about 3 years. In fact this chapter may be single handedly responsible for the changes in procedure that put a maximum length on certain phases of the Petitioning Process. I have both sympathies and issues with both the group that was attempting to come on campus and the Regional Staff. I was at their PG ceremony and on sectional staff at the time.

PM me about this, I wanna know more about this, having spoke with several of the petitioners personally.

Not New Jersey, Parks College of Saint Louis University (across the river in Illinois). Saint Louis University moved the aviation program (which was basically the entire school) back to the main campus and the all-male chapter at SLU-Parks wanted to merge in as a separate all-male family within Delta Delta chapter at SLU. This was not acceptable to the brothers of Delta Delta chapter and after much talking (The Region VIII director got involved), they decided to go their own way.

Hence, this was perhaps the precedent for Alpha Phi Omega having splinter groups. Though I was told by another brother that Alpha Phi Omega was indirectly responsible for Iota Phi Theta to come into existence, though personally I find that rather far-fetched, it's entirely possible.

Possible. I've been keeping an eye out online.

I want to discuss this further with you via PM also.

[naraht]

Originally Posted by KAPital PHINUst

FWIW, Phi Rho Eta has been highly respected on the campuses they have been on, one chapter having a member who served as president of the local chapter's NPHC.

Good for them. But SIU-Carbondale was not an HBCU, so the group was sort of odd by demographics anyway.

Originally Posted by KAPital PHINUst

Hence, this was perhaps the precedent for Alpha Phi Omega having splinter groups. Though I was told by another brother that Alpha Phi Omega was indirectly responsible for Iota Phi Theta to come into existence, though personally I find that rather far-fetched, it's entirely possible.

I don't think of them as a splinter group mostly because the jumped directly from APO to a National Social Fraternity, seems different than what people here have used as an example. And I thought that was *after* Phi Rho Eta.

As for Iota Phi Theta, never heard of that. APO was on campus at Morgan in 1956 (Mu Gamma chapter) and Iota formed in 1963. The only name that matches up out of the 12 Iota Founders and the members of Mu Gamma chapter is "Charlie Brown" who was one of the founders at Mu Gamma, but I have no idea if it is the same person. I do know that both Alpha Phi Omega and Iota Phi Theta were both on the non-NPHC council at Morgan for quite some time with various other groups.

[NinjaPoodle]

Originally Posted by Xidelt

At St. Lawrence University (northern new york state), there is an independent sorority called Kappa Delta Sigma. According to the history page on their web site, they used to be a chapter of Kappa Delta, but turned in their charter in 1969 and became local in response to the white-only membership clause that many GLOs had at the time. It seems that they wanted to rush and pledge a minority member and their HQ at the time would not allow it.

http://it.stlawu.edu/~kds/

[AOII Angel]

It's funny that I ran across this post since I just read an article on Wikipedia about the Dartmouth greek system. I really recommend it...they have many groups that returned their national charters and became local chapters due to the race issue and God issue. Strange campus!

[ladygreek]

Kudos to the GLOs that split because of the race issue. I have a new founded respect--kudos. And now even the original groups, from what I have read, have changed their stance on that, so even greater kudos to them. I can't imagine what the national conventions were like in dealing with that.

[L.O.C.K.]

Would you all count Harvard as a splinter situation???

I know the AD Club, Fly Club, Phoenix Club, etc. all used to be fraternities before but when all the Greeks were kicked off, started their own organizations. At least, this is what I've heard from my dad who was Phoenix Club, so I have no clue if this is correct. Any experts know???