Good Fraternities at Mississippi State?

[33girl]

Originally Posted by banditone

I don't understand why honesty is looked down upon so much around here.

If someone asked about Baylor, and you said "Well, the Sigma Nu chapter there isn't very strong". I wouldn't cry about it. I do want us to be strong/leaders on every campus, however, I do realize that is IMPOSSIBLE to do for any GLO.

Because you don't know for sure that it IS honest.

I mean say I can't stand the (random example) KDs at my school for whatever reason. I can come on here and say "well even though the KDs are big and popular, they all hate each others' guts and backstab constantly and they all had to pay extra dues last year because their last treasurer embezzled and they make you throw away your old clothes and buy all new ones." This is all complete BS, but now that seed's been planted and even if it is complete BS, it's going to stick in the rushee's head.

I don't have a problem with rushees saying "well I didn't like ASA, they were too quiet for me" because rushees don't have an ulterior motive. But when members of other groups on that campus say it, you never know how much is true and how much isn't.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by 33girl

Because you don't know for sure that it IS honest.

I mean say I can't stand the (random example) KDs at my school for whatever reason. I can come on here and say "well even though the KDs are big and popular, they all hate each others' guts and backstab constantly and they all had to pay extra dues last year because their last treasurer embezzled and they make you throw away your old clothes and buy all new ones." This is all complete BS, but now that seed's been planted and even if it is complete BS, it's going to stick in the rushee's head.

I don't have a problem with rushees saying "well I didn't like ASA, they were too quiet for me" because rushees don't have an ulterior motive. But when members of other groups on that campus say it, you never know how much is true and how much isn't.

Dishonesty is a risk you run any time you ask a question on an internet message board.

I don't think one dishonest representation re: KD is going to bring their chapter down. People are just looking for additional information. They'll do their own homework.

You're also suggesting that people here have ulterior motives when writing about folks on other campuses. I don't understand that. Maybe some of us do, but frankly, most of us could care less where/what/if these kids decide to join.

[susan314]

Originally Posted by Kevin

You're also suggesting that people here have ulterior motives when writing about folks on other campuses. I don't understand that. Maybe some of us do, but frankly, most of us could care less where/what/if these kids decide to join.

You raise another good point though - if you're writing about folks on other campuses, how well-versed enough are you in the Greek system on that campus to really be giving information?

If you're spouting off second-hand information from friends/acquaintences who went to that school (or third-hand information heard through a friend of a friend of a friend), you're still running the risk of presenting the kind of information that 33girl mentioned above - who's to say that the information that was passed on to you wasn't biased? If your friend is in XYZ fraternity that directly competes with ABC fraternity (for potential pledges, for attention from sororities, for intramural sports titles, etc.), his opinion of them is colored by those factors, even if he isn't intentionally trying to be biased.

Of course, I'd hope that statedawg would rely more heavily on his own opinions and/or the info he got from his HS friends (who he mentioned have all ended up in different fraternities at MSU), etc. before giving too much weight to everyone's opinions here.

[banditone]

good points all.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by susan314

You raise another good point though - if you're writing about folks on other campuses, how well-versed enough are you in the Greek system on that campus to really be giving information?

If you're spouting off second-hand information from friends/acquaintences who went to that school (or third-hand information heard through a friend of a friend of a friend), you're still running the risk of presenting the kind of information that 33girl mentioned above - who's to say that the information that was passed on to you wasn't biased? If your friend is in XYZ fraternity that directly competes with ABC fraternity (for potential pledges, for attention from sororities, for intramural sports titles, etc.), his opinion of them is colored by those factors, even if he isn't intentionally trying to be biased.

Of course, I'd hope that statedawg would rely more heavily on his own opinions and/or the info he got from his HS friends (who he mentioned have all ended up in different fraternities at MSU), etc. before giving too much weight to everyone's opinions here.

Yeah, I agree.

I'm not going to go back and look, but did someone in this thread actually say that they'd look at chapter websites and then tell the OP which houses were the top houses in Starksville?

I would hope that someone would be smarter than that, but people surprise me every day.

[SWTXBelle]

I stated that in order to judge things like chapter size, g.p.a., acomplishments, trophies won, etc., the chapter websites would be a good place to START. Obviously, you could not judge any chapter in its totality by a website.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by SWTXBelle

I stated that in order to judge things like chapter size, g.p.a., acomplishments, trophies won, etc., the chapter websites would be a good place to START. Obviously, you could not judge any chapter in its totality by a website.

I think websites are a pretty bad place to look. They are often out of date and they often misrepresent things.

I remember helping out at a rush over at one of the schools up the street from mine a few years back. I remember getting my hands on a rush pamphlet published by another house (which was suspended a couple of years ago when a kid died from alcohol poisoning). The pamphlet was full of blatant lies. Rush is very competitive. I would not take a website or brochure published by the organization itself at face value.

Rush is very competitive at some schools. If you're in an NPC organization, unless you've been involved in fraternity rush, you really aren't going to have a very good idea as to how things work. It's often very, very shady.