When to do rush

[OmegaPDPrez]

Originally Posted by AlphaFrog

I don't understand why a local would think that getting NPC leftovers was a benefit. I would hate to think of my sorority as a "backup" or "second" option if I didn't get into a "real" sorority. (Note: I'm not one that thinks that locals aren't "real" sororities - but this kind of thing perpetuates that kind of thinking).

Perhaps they aren't LEftovers....
Perhaps, these women, ACTUALLY want a 'real' sorority-- one thats ACTUALLY based on Sisterhood!
Not every NPC is what a girl is looking for...
That second option, is just sometimes the ONLY option for someone who actually wants to make a difference on her campus!!!
NOT every girl wants to plegde to a 'real' sorority, and end up paying $200 member dues, for three t-shirts, and the ability to say "Hi, im so and so, and I'm in XYZ..." AND that's it??
Sometime those "backup" sororities are the ones that dont charge anything and allow you to say things like "Hi, i'm so and so, and i'm in ABC and as a member i'v done numerous events for my community, i'm head of so and so in this group, in that group, and i've only been a member for one semester....
SOMEtimes~ second place ain't so bad
I can only speak for my campus, and my local here...
As i'm sure you were..
Your comment is amusing

[lauralaylin]

OmegaPZPreZ, are you trying to say that NPC sororities aren't real sororities? That we don't have actual sisterhood? That's sure what it sounds like. If so, you really don't know much about NPC. I got a lot more than a few t-shirts from my organization, as has every sister I've ever known of any sorority, local or otherwise. You may think AlphaFrog's post is amusing, but I think yours is rather uneducated.

[OmegaPDPrez]

Originally Posted by OmegaPDPrez

Perhaps they aren't LEftovers....

I can only speak for my campus, and my local here...
As i'm sure you were..
Your comment is amusing

As stated before, i speak only on behalf of NPC here at my campus.... Congrats to you, if your group actually accomplishes things like they should!
But my comment to ALphaPhrog is that sometimes Locals are created in a response to NPC groups that do not *seem* to fulfill the need of sorority~
And i am using a general definition of sorority that i hope we can agree on:
Sorority- An organization based for people of the female gender to come together with shared idea, morals, and interests, for social or service purposes, ( and that can be expanded into what ever you want) along with a life long bond of sisterhood acquired through each organizations education process.
Honestly, I have respect for every GLO that does what it was created to do. whether it is social or service. I just like the idea of a sorority being more than just saying that your in a sorority, as many girls on my campus do.
PLEASE, don't take offense to my comment, espcially if you know that you a part of a GLO that actually means something and actually does something.
And to say my comment is uneducated is a bit unfair- since you dont really know where i'm coming from~

[BlueEyedButrfly]

i agree with lauralaylin re: your post sounding uneducated.

i am in a local but we are currently seeking npc affiliation because there are so many more things that are offered by beng national. just because one campus has npc sororities that you do not feel are "accomplishing" things doesn't mean you should stereotype the entire npc organization. also, since you are not a member of any of those npc organizations you really have no idea as to what they do or do not accomplish.

what is your sorority classified as? are you social, service, multicultural?

[MaryAmanda]

Actually, my local has been in pursuit of NPC extension on our campus since our founding in 2001. Even with the infamous ratio here at Georgia Tech (3 guys to every 1 girl), it's still hard to fathom that there's only 6 NPC sororities represented on this campus. Tech hasn't had a successful expansion since the 80's, when there were far less women on campus.

Last week, a committee gave a presentation at the Panhellenic meeting recommending pursuing extension after recruitment in the fall, so hopefully it will happen soon! Even though I graduate in December, I look forward to the prospect of AI and being a part of something even bigger.

[lauralaylin]

OmegaPDPrez, I just want you to know that as a very active alum, I've worked with a great many chapters at a great many schools. And I've seen many chapters from other organizations than my own. And I must say that I think sisterhood is universal. Sure, there may be a chapter here and there that need some work with it, but I really feel they are few and far between. And I do not believe that locals or NPCs are better or worse with their sisterhood. There are definitely differences between the two, but all are real sororities. I do not know what campus you are from, so I cannot speak of them. But across North America, I believe you'd find that NPCs do have strong sisterhood like locals, and generalizations based on your campus experience alone may be incorrect.

MaryAmanda, good luck with your pursuit. I am a charter member of my group (joined after we chose an NPC), and a huge amount of alums from our local came back to be initiated as AIs. It was great to meet them and see how much they still cared about us. Many are still active in their alum groups too.

[OmegaPDPrez]

I'd really like someone to explian why my posts are so uneducated-PM on this-
IF i must go into more details for you all, I will.

I never said all NPC sororities were bad, and I did not make any generalized negative comment about them.

I did, however, make a statement about why women may want to join a local, based on Greek life activity here at my school. HERE AT MY SCHOOL!! GEt It???

And to tell me that I dont know what the groups are *supposed* to do, is not exactly true.

Each year, our IFSC gets together and all the groups make decisions on a number of things, and sometimes things fall through, but it happens to much. It has gotten to a point that it seems our Greek life here isn't really about accomplishing much anymore.

So now you know how I know.

I still won't go into much detail simply because this isnt the thread for it.

To bring back the topic, I will say this, My sorority is a social and service group our rush takes place after PanHell recruitment both fall and spring semesters, and it is very successful.

[33girl]

OmegaPDPrez, you took a post made by my sister and completely misinterpreted it and responded in a way that's insulting to a lot of people on here.

What AF was saying was that for locals, perhaps rushing after the national groups rushed wasn't a good idea, because instead of getting women who truly wanted your group, you would run the risk of getting women who attempted to join a national sorority and weren't successful, so they figured "I guess local is better than nothing" and treated their sisters and membership accordingly. SHE DID NOT SAY SHE HAD THAT OPINION OF LOCALS HERSELF.

It's no one's right to judge the quality of another group's "sisterhood" just because they're different than your own group. We've had a zillion discussions on here where people completely dissed locals and said they were "fake sororities" and a good number of posters smacked them down for this very wrong opinion. However, reverse prejudice is no way to go. That is where the "uneducated" comment came in.

[KSUViolet06]

If you can, I would suggest participating in Panhellenic recruitment. I think it's the best way to avoid being seen as the "fake sorority" or "the sorority for girls who don't get bids during formal rush." Even if you don't get as many women as the Panhellenic sororities do, you will have the experience of participating in it and knowing how it works.

[OmegaPDPrez]

i actually dont do any type of formal or informal recruitment. right now two of my friends are 'pledging, rather learning, about my sorority and next fall i think i will do something close to a formal? recruitment ( not sure the difference between formal and informal; like i know what makes them different but i dont think the names fit them well but, thats a whole nother topic) anyway.
next semester i will have a rush period, and then i will introduce new members to the organization through our education period which will produce, hopefully, new sisters into the group. but the difference is i will not advertise as panhell does- which is really creative this year was really cute- simply because 1. my school probably wouldnt like for me too ( thats all in another thread) and 2. because i dont want it to become that group where people 'sludge' to just to 'get letters' cause i do believe that sometimes that could be the case ( see alpha, i totally get your point!) 3. i cant advertise to 2000 women and not expect to get alot of attention as anew group
i think what im trying to say is my recruitment will sortof be underground. My goal isnt to recruit alot of women since we're small and the idea is to keep it not in the spolight so to speak ( i think im making this complicated, which im talented at doing) but anyway, i like the idea of just going to a few interested women on campus and asking them to join us for an interest meeting and then pretty much going from there. which is also one of the reasons why i rather recruit after NPC so then who ever wants to really get to know NPC groups has that chance and if they dont find what they like they can conctrate completely on my group.

Something like that! I hope i didnt confuse us all

[SigmaPezY60]

If there are a lot of locals on your campus, do you have a council for them? You could organize a formal recruitment for the locals on your campus similar to the NPC recruitment process.

My chapter is one of the 3 largest sororities on campus, along with the 2 NPC sororities. NJIT doesn't have a traditional formal rush process and all GLO's have recruitment at the same time. We all take around the same number of new members each semester.

I do agree that you should try to recruit along with the Panhellenic. It's only difficult to compete if you allow it to be difficult. If you don't get as many new members you can always do COB the week after.

[kddani]

Originally Posted by OmegaPDPrez

i actually dont do any type of formal or informal recruitment. right now two of my friends are 'pledging, rather learning, about my sorority and next fall i think i will do something close to a formal? recruitment ( not sure the difference between formal and informal; like i know what makes them different but i dont think the names fit them well but, thats a whole nother topic) anyway.
next semester i will have a rush period, and then i will introduce new members to the organization through our education period which will produce, hopefully, new sisters into the group. but the difference is i will not advertise as panhell does- which is really creative this year was really cute- simply because 1. my school probably wouldnt like for me too ( thats all in another thread) and 2. because i dont want it to become that group where people 'sludge' to just to 'get letters' cause i do believe that sometimes that could be the case ( see alpha, i totally get your point!) 3. i cant advertise to 2000 women and not expect to get alot of attention as anew group
i think what im trying to say is my recruitment will sortof be underground. My goal isnt to recruit alot of women since we're small and the idea is to keep it not in the spolight so to speak ( i think im making this complicated, which im talented at doing) but anyway, i like the idea of just going to a few interested women on campus and asking them to join us for an interest meeting and then pretty much going from there. which is also one of the reasons why i rather recruit after NPC so then who ever wants to really get to know NPC groups has that chance and if they dont find what they like they can conctrate completely on my group.

Something like that! I hope i didnt confuse us all

I'm rather confused... are you part of a sorority, or is this your own personal fanclub or something? All of this "I" and "my". What happened to all of this based on "sisterhood" stuff you've been talking about? How is it a sisterhood to say all of this as your own personal decisions, and not that of a group?