Student housing questions

[lambdaindenver]

John - is there a reason why the student has to live in the dormitories. It would seem to be a reasonable accomodation for him to live in an apartment off campus - thus providing the privacy which he needs for his medical condition. I don't believe that NAU has a requirement that juniors live in the dormitories.

If he is wanting to live in the dormitories because he does not want to have to worry about meals, then the reasonable accomodation is to pay for the meal plan and live off campus. Money does not appear to be the issue.

If his condition is such that he can live off campus, then I don't think that NAU has to provide him with a single room.

Why aren't the student and his parents engaged in a discussion with the University? That is their obligation.

[john1082]

Originally Posted by lambdaindenver

John - is there a reason why the student has to live in the dormitories. It would seem to be a reasonable accomodation for him to live in an apartment off campus - thus providing the privacy which he needs for his medical condition. I don't believe that NAU has a requirement that juniors live in the dormitories.

If he is wanting to live in the dormitories because he does not want to have to worry about meals, then the reasonable accomodation is to pay for the meal plan and live off campus. Money does not appear to be the issue.

If his condition is such that he can live off campus, then I don't think that NAU has to provide him with a single room.

Why aren't the student and his parents engaged in a discussion with the University? That is their obligation.

Student and school are in Arizona and the parents are in Alaska. The school is givingthe kid the brush-off.

Apparently there IS a dorm that in the past has provided single rooms for upperclassmen. This kid will be an upperclassman next year. BUT

The school is converting said upperclass dorm with singles into freshman doubles. Upperclassmen currently residing in said doem can keep their singles next year via grandfathering. Client, who has a single for his first two years as an accomodation is told that he isn't grandfathered in as the upperclassmen were.

Seems as if the housing folks are playing "WHACKAMOLE" with the rules. As soon as one rule is dealt with they come up with another. Testing, not on meds, taking too many meds (he takes 1), dorm conversions, decision makers unavailable...

To compound it, when the kid tries to talk to them the anxiety kicks in and he loses focus on the argument.

I agree that an apartment downtown would likely be the optimal solution, but clients don't always want the optimal answer. As a result I may be visiting Flagstaff next week.

[Tom Earp]

John, I take it that ASU is not a small school worried about losing seats in the school as Brother Jono refers to!

While this student has problems, one would think that there can be exceptions as long as the room is completely paid for by one or two persons.

I am sure if He was a Brother of ours or by blood there would be some concern by one or many.

[john1082]

It's Northern Arizona University in Flagstaff, not ASU. They are on an admissions kick and are attempting to grow up from a small school to a "player" in Arizona collegiate education. Personally, I think they have a case of 'campus envy'.

Lots and lots of building on campus. Plus there is a Greek dorm. Very, very nice. Houses are selected to occupy the place. If Indy should ever decided to come west for a new colony then NAU would bear investigation. But my Spidey Sense tells me that the best we can hope for out here is a slow reopening of our closed cjapters at Santa Barbara and perhaps UCLA. Cal? Don't even know if it is on the radar.

[HONKY660]

Originally Posted by john1082

Lots and lots of building on campus. Plus there is a Greek dorm. Very, very nice. Houses are selected to occupy the place. If Indy should ever decided to come west for a new colony then NAU would bear investigation. But my Spidey Sense tells me that the best we can hope for out here is a slow reopening of our closed cjapters at Santa Barbara and perhaps UCLA. Cal? Don't even know if it is on the radar.

When the ELC was in town visiting my chapter last month he told me that that if they went back to Arizona, it would probably be at NAU. Fresh new start at a new campus. Apparently the other Arizona campuses we were at, don't seem worth going back to at the moment. State of the greek system in those schools isn't good he said.

[john1082]

Originally Posted by HONKY660

When the ELC was in town visiting my chapter last month he told me that that if they went back to Arizona, it would probably be at NAU. Fresh new start at a new campus. Apparently the other Arizona campuses we were at, don't seem worth going back to at the moment. State of the greek system in those schools isn't good he said.

"State of the greek system isn't good" seems to be the stock Indianapolis answer these days.

NAU appears to have a greek positive (an worst greek neutral) administration. Minimal distractions and relatively few bars near campus - as opposed to ASU & Tempe. I believe that we ought to look at NAU but I don't know if we have a viable alumni base there. With the conditions imposed on new colonies now I don't know if the requisite alumni could be found there to support a colony.

[PiLambda1]

Originally Posted by john1082

"State of the greek system isn't good" seems to be the stock Indianapolis answer these days.

NAU appears to have a greek positive (an worst greek neutral) administration. Minimal distractions and relatively few bars near campus - as opposed to ASU & Tempe. I believe that we ought to look at NAU but I don't know if we have a viable alumni base there. With the conditions imposed on new colonies now I don't know if the requisite alumni could be found there to support a colony.

I liked Biff's outline of those requirements, but I would say they are more
strong suggestions than steadfast law. I noticed that one of the requirements
said that the school must be a 4 year undergraduate school. STLCOP
doesn't meet that by a long shot. We are a 6 year doctoral program.

Of course, we have a wealth of alumni base in STL...



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