Harry Potter Speculation

[SydneyK]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

But I think she has already told us that he is not [a horcrux] in Book 4.

I don't remember that. I don't think Harry's a horcrux, either, but I don't remember anything about it in book 4. Of course, I haven't reread GoF for a while, so there's a lot I've forgotten.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by SydneyK

I don't remember that. I don't think Harry's a horcrux, either, but I don't remember anything about it in book 4. Of course, I haven't reread GoF for a while, so there's a lot I've forgotten.

There was nothing specific about it in Book 4, but I think there was adequate information from which one can accurately deduce that V did not create a horcrux when he killed Harry's parents and tried to kill Harry. Don't want to get explicit here, though, unless people want explicitness.

[aopirose]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

There was nothing specific about it in Book 4, but I think there was adequate information from which one can accurately deduce that V did not create a horcrux when he killed Harry's parents and tried to kill Harry. Don't want to get explicit here, though, unless people want explicitness.

I agree. He was trying to kill Harry and I don't think that he inadvertantly created one "in" Harry. The creation of a horcrux must be a deliberate action since the steps to creating one are so heinous.

[MysticCat]

^^^^ Right. But there is something even more to the point in Book 4, I think.

[CutiePie2000]

It's been a while since I read the book(s), so since... my memory is a lil' foggy, please feel free to enlighten me.

You get a horcrux by "tearing a piece of your soul off", yes? (i.e. the little piece of "soul" would be the horcrux)

I'm thinking that the scar *is* a horcrux, or has a "horcrux living in it"..... there's been too much of an "ado" about Harry's scar since page 1 of the books, for the scar not to be something hugely significant. And basically, my belief is that, if a "chunk of Voldemort (i.e. the horcrux)" is residing in Harry's forehead scar, the only way for Voldemort to "get at it", is either for Harry to die (and this would thereby "release the horcrux") or for Voldemort to die (and then the horcrux would die too, since the "Main Voldemort" would be dead). My theory/belief/paradigm is that now that the horcrux is "in" Harry's forehead, it cannot be retrieved unless Harry, being the "host", is dead.

[lyrelyre]

Originally Posted by CutiePie2000

And basically, my belief is that, if a "chunk of Voldemort (i.e. the horcrux)" is residing in Harry's forehead scar, the only way for Voldemort to "get at it", is either for Harry to die (and this would thereby "release the horcrux") or for Voldemort to die (and then the horcrux would die too, since the "Main Voldemort" would be dead).

It is my understanding, it's been a while since I read the books as well, that the whole point of a horcrux is that you cannot die while one still exists. If the portion of the soul that is in Voldemort's "body" dies, the portion that resides in a horcrux can be used to "regenerate" Voldemort.

[CutiePie2000]

Ah yes...I think it is coming back to me now. So, if Voldemort gets "killed off", he can "rejuvenate" himself with one of the several horcruxes that he made, right? (How many did the non-evil wizards believe Voldemort made? I think it was 6 or 7, wasn't it?)